Originally Posted by
Viromand
This!!! Vengeance doenst make you doe 200k dps with just autohits, infact paladin druids and monks high dps rotations are not just two buttons, warriors and dks is not as hard. And im not talking about castsequence makro pala or druids, those will never be in front of you dps or have high survivability, if a castsequnce makro druid is destroying your dpsclasses theysuck or he has so little uptime on sd doenst use he cds proberly that he will gain more vengeance than he should.
Vengeance is something good for dps, but its also depending on how much dmg the tank gets. And most of the dps classes were undergeared, so were tanks. and it was the same last tier, tanks dps nr1 till dps got better gear. And the amount of vengeance gets lower with more gear. Better gear less dmg less vengeance, DPS better gear better dmg
From my personal POV, never played with another tank that beat me in terms of dps (im a druid) still healer say its easier to heal me as a druid on fights like jikun. Is our protpala bad, no he is fine, and im not the best druid on this planet. So I should make a post about druids beeing the best class to heal, best dps class. But I know from other logs and class understanding that, this is not the case.
Having high dps says nothing about tankskill, as a druid you can jsut use maul all the time no SD and die but do 250k dps. As a protpala you can spam your SotR everytime its up, and never save up to 5 and use them where it is really Strong on specials like talons rake. You will end up with more dps but die.
With a certain amount of vengeance bad tanks do 100k dps, still good tanks will do 150-200k and still keep there AM uptimes higher which is more important. Good AM uptimes is the difference between 2 or 3 healing a fight, doing extra 50-100k dps dmg is not. Seen DK do alot of dps not using DS but Heartstrike instead, Still you would say the DS one is better due to him taking less dmg.
Some vengeance mechanics are broken. Paladin hammer scales to good with it. Druid dps cooldowns with high vengeance.