resto trinket cutsticher or soothing vp trinket

[Phaz3d]

fully upgraded cutstitcher or the vp trinket
iv heard a lot of things saying not to go vp trinket

any info and help would be great
thanks

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The spreadsheet i follow (from ej originally i think) puts the two trinkets at:

Soothing = 1467 int, 1817.19 equivalent spi

Cutstitcher = 1152 int, 1017.54 equivalent spi

Thats not upgraded tho, but seems to me that Soothing would be much better than a fully upgraded Cutstitcher.

*edit - assuming used on CD

[Gags]

This issue with the VP trink is when fights fall into the certain time frames the trinket becomes less useful. Realistically you'll use it a minimum of 45s to a minute into a fight. So then use it again at 4 minutes. But if the fight finishes at 6:45 then it's effectiveness isn't as good as say a trinket that isn't as effective but procs on average every minute.

Raw numbers the VP trinket is good, but depending on fight lengths it can become less effective.

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Gags raises a good point, i guess it reduces the value of the soothing trinket by quite a bit.

[insanedruid]

This issue with the VP trink is when fights fall into the certain time frames the trinket becomes less useful. Realistically you'll use it a minimum of 45s to a minute into a fight. So then use it again at 4 minutes. But if the fight finishes at 6:45 then it's effectiveness isn't as good as say a trinket that isn't as effective but procs on average every minute.

Raw numbers the VP trinket is good, but depending on fight lengths it can become less effective.

On the other hand, when fights fall into other time frames the trinket becomes more useful.
Say the fight lasts 7:15 you can use it three times. So that's not really a disavantage.

And that's the same for all on use trinkets. If you can use it again just before the fight ends you gain some. If the fight ends just before you can use it again you lose some.
The effective mp5 is just like a sawtooth wave. The amplitude and wavelength will be greater if the cd is longer.

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On the other hand, when fights fall into other time frames the trinket becomes more useful.
Say the fight lasts 7:15 you can use it three times. So that's not really a disavantage.

And that's the same for all on use trinkets. If you can use it again just before the fight ends you gain some. If the fight ends just before you can use it again you lose some.
The effective mp5 is just like a sawtooth wave. The amplitude and wavelength will be greater if the cd is longer.

So to keep it simple, the longer the fight, the better the trinket gets?

[insanedruid]

So to keep it simple, the longer the fight, the better the trinket gets?

No. The effective mp5 goes up and down, depending on the length of the fight.

[Thalur]

Gags raises a good point, i guess it reduces the value of the soothing trinket by quite a bit.

No, you got that wrong. The ~950 MP5 (or ~1900 Spirit equivalent) takes that into account already and is an average value. The trinket can be substantially better, e.g. 1200 MP5 (2400 Spirit) for a 6:40 fight, or it can be worse, e.g. 800 MP5 (1600 Spirit) for a 6:30 fight. I'll insert a diagram showing the mana gains of the trinket depending on the fight length.

Anyway, the trinket is always substantially better than the 496 one, no matter the fight length and upgrades.