Hey all well i recently created my own guild (playing prot pally) due to people wanting me to, my plan originally was to apply for some heroic guilds that take raiding seriously while also have fun, aka, 3 raids (maybe 4) a week for a few hours, nothing like 6 days a week for 7 hours (thats too much i.m.o). I had mixed thoughts about creating my own guild, as it always goes: raids go well, people then start slacking as we're progressing heroic, guild falls apart.
Well we did our first raid week, and i honestly wasn't impressed, the guild was made up off 6 of us being from the previous guild with 12/12N, a hunter with 4/12N (good mate who didnt get to raid previously) a shammy who's done 11/12N, a warrior tank who's done 8/12N and a druid who has 12/12.
The raids were fun, but when we got to a fight that required a little bit of movement, wipes occured, the shammys healing dropped by like 50% due to movement (durumu for example), that cuased us around 6-8 wipes, and then we eventually got to iron qon, with tons of wipes, we finally killed it with low dps. Even with me 1 tanking i feel like my dps is VERY LOW and a part of that is because the fights dragging on for so damn long.
I only really want heroic raiding, normals are nice for social raiding but if i wanted that i would have the guild filled with just good mates of mine, who aren't exactly great dps/heals etc just to have a laugh, but everyone knew/knows this guild is for the purpose of heroic progress.
Logs for last raid, check previous days in this week for other logs of this team: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/0n13virwtbtmgskn/
When i 2 tanked in previous guilds, i did a little less dps than i did on iron qon and before anyone says it, i know we had a dps dead for the kill, but that's the tank in his dps offspec, and we never would have 10 alive at the end...
The shammy healer is slacking in my opinion, he has the legendary meta gem, and is by far the lowest healer, and on any LITTLE movement fight his hps suffers. On durumu with 3 healers, if the pally or druid died, i would die. On the first part of iron qon, i would out heal him too, i know pallys are great for healing, but i didnt have battle healer glyphed, i did have it glyphed previous attempts but i tried making the healers step it up for future fights by removing it (told them i dont expect to out heal em), he did out heal me at the end of the fight, but P1 is quite healing intense and having a pally tank in 3rd who isn't using battle insight is shocking.
Warrior: as a warrior tank he could a crap ton of damage on durumu for example, i was the main tank,s witching on 4x stacks, but the healers couldnt keep him up, due to play style i guess (i noticed lack of shield barrier pre hard stare etc for example, not sure if warriors are meant to though.. dont play em) anyway we switched to 1 tank to fix it, ( was planning on 1 tanking hc anyway) but his dps spec does like 60k dps, while having quite a bit of gear, even 2 set ToT.
I understand people may have a one off in a fight or such, happens to us all but it was quite frustrating last week to wipe on things a few of us constantly 1 or nearly 1 shot before, i feel that i will need to replace the shammy healer as heroic will require a lot of movement anyway, and the warrior, as his dps in tank and dps spec, is very low and hsi damage taken is going to be an issue if healers struggled with him on Normals.
What do you think? Should i replace people, if so who? shammy? Warrior? someone else? My origonal setup for this raid team was:
Prot pala - me
dps dosent matter that much, i like the dps we have atm (setup anyway)
Should i replace the shammy for a disc? (REALLY struggling to find them atm would heroics be a hassel with a different class?)
Warrior tanks who do heroic raiding, please look at the logs, is the warrior tank good? using his cds and such? Or should i replace him.
Long story short:
I want hc progress, and was asked to make a guild instead of leaving realm
The healing is lacking and i feel like the off tank isn't that great, i over agro / he takes a crap ton more damage, awareness is also a issue with both war/shammy (they joined together so replacing 1 will mean replacing both basically)
is heroic doable with no DISC, i wanted spirit shell but if i really can't get a disc, what healing class would be suited for the healers we have now? (IF REPLACING shammy)
sorry for long post.