/shrug I've had lots of good experience including pugging full HoF on heroic.
/shrug I've had lots of good experience including pugging full HoF on heroic.
The way she instantly resorted to hostility makes me think she may know she sucks deep down and is in denial of it.
It's gonna be hit and miss with Openraid, because in the end you deal with people who can range from average to good, or bad.
Overall for me it's been a good experience and to so easily get a raid group for whatever raid is awesome. I've had a couple bad groups yes, but I'd say overall it's amazing.
If you're willing to put a little time into looking up the people you run with for the most part you'll avoid situations like this. I've mostly had very good experiences with Openraid and the only runs I've been to that have been lackluster have all been run with people who have not even cleared the stuff they are trying to lead.
That one retired mage.
http://dotabuff.com/players/75546158 Main DotA account
http://dotabuff.com/players/135984949 Secondary DotA account
Obviously it wasn't your intention, but if I had to guess they took that last part as saying, "This is super easy, if you died it's because you're doing it wrong." Just the fact that you lived and they died sets the context that you're better than them, and put them on the defensive.
Personally, I agree with the statement that it's not hard to dodge once you understand how the pattern works. But it sounds like this group just doesn't take feedback well, which is sad because it means they probably won't improve much.
Sometimes it's just how you say things. Other times it's just the audience.
I was a big fan of Openraid back in Cata. I mainly just did transmog/meta/mount runs but most of the time it went well. I really hated the big site redesign they did awhile back and I haven't done much on Openraid since MoP. When I came back in MoP to finish up a few meta's I was missing I got pretty frustrated with the whole system. I wasn't getting picked for any groups despite having great reputation and positive feedback on the site as well as being more geared and more progressed then 90% of the people that were applying for runs and getting in over me. There is really a click-ish attitude there amongst the big raid leaders, and for lack of a better word, their minions. If you're not already in their click then good luck getting in even if you're better then the whole group.
Well if you dint know the ppl or guilds where they come from there is high chance someone to ruin your fun makes you to feel that you arent in normal raid but LFR
I've had okay experiences, but people stealing your heroic ID was pretty annoying when we were working on heroic rag mounts. Or you'd kick someone and they'd make a new group to squat and prevent your guys from getting in.
Love it. i am on a dead server ( apx 8k players horde and ally ) so finding that last dps to fill a raid can be a pain. or im bored and wanna raid and noones on. i also work graveyard so it's nice to use as a resource to find raid spots for alts etc... i just found out about it 3 month ago and only wished i had this resource in cata.
now, in those 3 months i've had several great experiences. i've also had some terrible ones. luck of the draw i suppose.
I've had some good experiences with Openraid, but I've also not joined a T14 pug raid lead by someone I don't know. Running your own raids (or having friends do it) is a really important way to set the tone for what sort of experience you want on Openraid.
I've been in both good groups and bad groups from OpenRaid. I was in one group that 1 shot H Empress today, and another group that wiped on Normal Garalon because "this is how we kite Pheromones in LFR and it works good there, it should be the same on Normal."
I usually Wowprogress the leader and at least a few tanks / healers to see if they have actually killed said boss(es) on any of their toons or if they're at least decently progressed in ToT (if they got past Normal Durumu they're probably not terrible).
OP's group probably had people who never killed Normal Imperial Vizier before and who probably think dodging Attenuation is optional because the rings hit for 30k each like they do on LFR.
Like people have said, you can have a really good or really bad experience, as with any pug. It bugs me that people spam "lfm heroic msv 505+ ilvl" When a person who only trolls lfr can get that ilvl easily(trolls seem to have the best luck)
Did a hof on there, 2-3 derps dying on attenunation every time... A certain rogue in my friends raid group still hasn't been able to master it, and they're in tot? It's not rocket science to avoid rings /endrant
tldr
openraid is very useful for people, but you have to learn to take the bad with the good.
We only have your version of the event. Not saying you are right or wrong, just stating the facts. I have tried open raids before arranged by my guild but it was for achievement runs in older content. Some guild members who does this regularly generally have a positive opinion of it.
There's good/bad people everywhere. What's nice about openraid is it makes interacting with those people much easier and faster.
Always gonna have a 50/50 chance on the kind of ppl you pug with.
I'd suggest just taking good control of your own time, if you really don't like your group, leave; if you really like your group, add someone and go with them later. I personally love not being limited to my own server, Open Raid and Oqueue open up a lot of opportunities that I'm surprised blizzard themselves haven't implemented yet.
Openraid is what you make of it.
During Cata I managed to knock out heroic rag and was the only horde toon on draenor at that point with the firelord title, tier 11 meta, heroic dw again horde 1st and amazingly an immortal sinestra kill!
So far during MoP ive managed to knock out a majority of the Tier 14 meta and alot of the heroic kills I didnt get in HoF and ToES.
I'll also be looking to finish my meta out and secure a heroic sha kill in the coming weeks.
Openraid truely reinvigorated my game time outside guild raiding in this game.