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  1. #21
    The LFR loot system is fine as is, and this is from a person who went a whole week without winning an item in LFR, off of Nalak or Oondasta, exhausting 3 coins and clearing up to Dark Animus in normal ToT (I only won the tier chest (the 522 one)).

    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Sounds like you're overly entitled. You don't deserve the loot or even need it. Loot is RNG and will always BE RNG. If you don't like this system there are a lot of games that don't use it. Oh yeah, and there are these BS 502 weapons you can get...
    Blacksmiths can make 502 daggers? Please tell me where these plans are. XD

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Arothand View Post
    I don't think we need something this extreme. I'd be happy just with an increased drop rate with the current system, because getting that bag of garbage is awful. It'd be nice if the bag was guaranteed to have some kind of useful potion/gems, instead of just gold (not even sure if there's a chance for something other than gold), but just gold is blah.
    You can get a plethora of other items from the bags. And the 5.3 loot token system is increasing the drop rate as has been said many times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Treseme View Post
    Blacksmiths can make 502 daggers? Please tell me where these plans are. XD
    you're right. Some classes may have to run the nerfed MSV/HOF/ToES that have increased drop rates(including from tokens) to get their weapons. NOT ACTUAL RAIDING ZOMG BLIZZ!!!
    Last edited by Vegas82; 2013-05-04 at 01:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Sounds like you're overly entitled. You don't deserve the loot or even need it. Loot is RNG and will always BE RNG. If you don't like this system there are a lot of games that don't use it. Oh yeah, and there are these BS 502 weapons you can get...
    since when can BS make weapons for a hunter?

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    Eeuh no thnx, its really not fun to always get an item.
    What i would like to see are loot tokens, and a vendor to spend them. It makes more sense imo, I mean, you do loot the boss after you killed it, you can take a bit of his gear or what ever, why would a warrior type boss ever drop healing stuff? Therefor loot tokens would make much more sense. You got to kill a boss and he dropt somthing, when you give it to the vendor he'll be like :" Oh yea good thing you killed him/it/her it was really pissing me off, here chose an item."
    Ofcourse every boss has it own tokes and you will be able to chose annything that the boss is supposed to drop (exept for mounts/pets ofcourse)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arothand View Post
    I don't think we need something this extreme. I'd be happy just with an increased drop rate with the current system, because getting that bag of garbage is awful. It'd be nice if the bag was guaranteed to have some kind of useful potion/gems, instead of just gold (not even sure if there's a chance for something other than gold), but just gold is blah.
    ive had spirits of harmony motes blood spirits and random rare quality gems come form the bags but they seems to be a 1-2% chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frolk View Post
    People is NEVER happy what so ever about what Blizzard does, people want more and more free loot, it SICKENS ME
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    Sorry for everyone who didn't read the entire set of posts that I confused with my BS comment. A previous poster had said you couldn't get weapons from valor, was directed more at that.

  8. #28
    Only way in LFR i can see loot being better is IF you win somthing you get a box up of the things you can use for that spec. (tokens wont count) and you can choose what you want from it. Its annoying to get same loot every week.

  9. #29
    Why aren't people just happy with being able to get practically free loot already?
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Shyzhi View Post
    Only way in LFR i can see loot being better is IF you win somthing you get a box up of the things you can use for that spec. (tokens wont count) and you can choose what you want from it. Its annoying to get same loot every week.
    Then they'd have to do this for normals/heroics too and everyone would instantly be BiS when they got the kills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Sorry for everyone who didn't read the entire set of posts that I confused with my BS comment. A previous poster had said you couldn't get weapons from valor, was directed more at that.
    np now back to where i was, since there are no craftable 502 weaps for hunters it would be nice if the change to get thta was slowlky increase by my proposed method on page 1

  12. #32
    RNG works as RNG should - and anyone who does not want their gold who is on my server could send it to me, I can always find a use for it.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by ShasVa View Post
    So you're saying a Hunter who keeps missing out on Durumu's Baleful Gaze would have a better chance of getting in this new system you speak of?
    So what makes you entitled for that certain loot you want, out of many options?

  14. #34
    So basically under this system, people run LFR maybe 3 times max and then are done with it for the rest of the patch and cry for more content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdragon2 View Post
    ive had spirits of harmony motes blood spirits and random rare quality gems come form the bags but they seems to be a 1-2% chance
    You can get 502 ilvl version of the trash drops aswell, i got the mail boots (that i didnt need) in one bag, so theres a really small chance to get epics aswell.

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    The current system has issues that could be addressed, but I find it to be alright. You'll obviously gear up faster in normals and heroics, so I think slowing down LFR gear progression is a good thing, with the current loot system. Those only doing normals, heroics or both, deserve a faster chance of obtaining gear quicker, anyhow.
    Last edited by Ceece; 2013-05-04 at 01:26 PM.

  17. #37
    People are so entitled now. Why should you get gear at all? You are coming into LFR at minimum ilvl, with no prior knowledge of the fights and killing bosses as you afk and watch tv. Letting 8-10 good players who work hard carry you through it. If they are unable to carry you, the system now buffs them for failing until they can hold your weight.

    What they should do is remove the loot drops from LFR period, and make it what it should have been all along. A way for casual players to see the content without having to commit a few hours a night to a raid group. But then, who would do LFR at all? Nobody, because people don't really care about the content. People care about the shiny stuff. IMO if that is your motivation, it should cost more effort than afk spamming '1' for 30 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskra View Post
    Why aren't people just happy with being able to get practically free loot already?
    People seems forgot "oh so awesome" vanilla raids where every boss just drop 3 items for 40 people. It was especially awesome when 2 out of 3 items were for wrong faction (like pally tier drops in horde raid or shammy tier drops in ally raid). It was soooo awesome
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    The system is fine and doesn't need to be fixed at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451 View Post
    People are so entitled now. Why should you get gear at all? You are coming into LFR at minimum ilvl, with no prior knowledge of the fights and killing bosses as you afk and watch tv. Letting 8-10 good players who work hard carry you through it. If they are unable to carry you, the system now buffs them for failing until they can hold your weight.

    stoped reading there as this is a bad generalization and it needs to stop

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