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    Worth getting? New comp buy

    Been about 5 years since the last time I looked into a new PC, so honestly I have no idea what I should be looking for anymore. Need a cheap prebuilt as I don't have the experience or extra time to try building my own. About all I'll be doing with is it playing WoW, so as long as it can keep a decent framerate in major cities/ LFR I'll be happy. Just need to know if it would be worth getting, and if any of the other options for parts would be really worth the extra cash. Don't need to replace the monitor, speakers, mouse or keyboard as they are all relatively new. This one comes out to be $470, which is pretty much what my budget is atm, but I need to know if it's even worth it. On that note if you can find a better prebuilt for around $500 or less it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you to anyone who takes a look and comments, as I said I'm kinda lost, so any help is very welcome.

    Components

    HP Pavilion p6-2420t Desktop PC
    • Windows 8 64
    • 3rd Generation Intel(R) Pentium(R) G2020 dual-core processor [2.9GHz, 3MB Shared Cache]
    other options
    3rd Generation Intel(R) Pentium(R) G2120 dual-core processor [3.1GHz, 3MB Shared Cache]
    +$60.00
    3rd Generation Intel(R) Pentium(R) G2130 dual-core processor [3.2GHz, 3MB Shared Cache]
    +$90.00
    3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 dual-core processor [3.3GHz, 3MB Shared Cache]
    +$130.00
    3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240 dual-core processor [3.4GHz, 3MB Shared Cache]
    +$210.00
    3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3330 quad-core processor [3.0GHz, 6MB Shared Cache]
    +$310.00




    • 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT620 [DVI, HDMI, VGA via Adapter]
    Other options
    1GB AMD HD 8470 [HDMI, DVI, VGA via Adapter; DX11]
    +$0.00


    • 6GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]
    Other Options
    8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]
    +$60.00
    8GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [1 DIMM]
    +$60.00



    • 500GB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
    • SuperMulti DVD Burner
    • 2 USB 3.0
    • Beats Audio (tm) -- integrated studio quality sound
    • Wireless-N LAN card (1x1)
    Last edited by Purplehaxe; 2013-05-04 at 11:00 PM.

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    Both of those graphics card options are worthless pieces of crap that can hardly run Farmville properly, WoW's not gonna be playable at above mimimum settings on either. Rest of the parts are something you could live with.

    You don't want to hear it, but going with DIY will give you 2-3 times higher framerate for few hours of work so it's not a question of time.
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    Pretty much you're limited to either what Vesseblah said... a DIY solution, but even then you'd be limited with a $500 budget.

    I wouldn't want to go any lower than this on a new system I expected to last more than a year:

    PCPartPicker part list
    CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.68 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($37.60 @ Amazon)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $531.18

    Another option is.... Look on craigslist for used gaming systems. Not that it helps, but I'm selling a Core2Duo system with a GeForce 460 which plays wow pretty dang decently for $350, so something a bit better than that would work.
    Gaming: Dual Intel Pentium III Coppermine @ 1400mhz + Blue Orb | Asus CUV266-D | GeForce 2 Ti + ZF700-Cu | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 | Whistler Build 2267
    Media: Dual Intel Drake Xeon @ 600mhz | Intel Marlinspike MS440GX | Matrox G440 | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 @ 166mhz | Windows 2000 Pro

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    Would ordering the system with a cheaper graphics card in it and then putting a better one in be an option? I really wouldn't know what I was doing trying to put one together myself, but I'm sure I could handle something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purplehaxe View Post
    Would ordering the system with a cheaper graphics card in it and then putting a better one in be an option? I really wouldn't know what I was doing trying to put one together myself, but I'm sure I could handle something like that.
    if you can replace a graphics card you can build a pc!
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    If you can find a premade AMD apu system, I would recommend that instead and if you wanted add more performance you could add a 6670 to dual graphics with the apu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purplehaxe View Post
    Would ordering the system with a cheaper graphics card in it and then putting a better one in be an option?
    It's an option to throw $50 or more away straight out of the window. The card you pull out is worth pretty much nothing resold.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcbeaty View Post
    If you can find a premade AMD apu system, I would recommend that instead and if you wanted add more performance you could add a 6670 to dual graphics with the apu.
    That's really bad idea adding second shitty graphics to complement one shitty graphics. If there's money to buy new card, it can be used whole lot better. Also it's somewhat bad idea buying into AMD for WoW which is all that the OP wanted.
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    Save up some more money for a few months and build a decent system, or buy a used gaming system, honestly. 500 is incredibly tight for gaming..
    Gaming: Dual Intel Pentium III Coppermine @ 1400mhz + Blue Orb | Asus CUV266-D | GeForce 2 Ti + ZF700-Cu | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 | Whistler Build 2267
    Media: Dual Intel Drake Xeon @ 600mhz | Intel Marlinspike MS440GX | Matrox G440 | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 @ 166mhz | Windows 2000 Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesseblah View Post
    Both of those graphics card options are worthless pieces of crap that can hardly run Farmville properly, WoW's not gonna be playable at above mimimum settings on either. Rest of the parts are something you could live with.

    You don't want to hear it, but going with DIY will give you 2-3 times higher framerate for few hours of work so it's not a question of time.
    2-3 times 5 isn't very much :P. But yeah, you can get a nice machine that will run WoW on reasonably high settings for sub $600.

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    How would something like this work out, and really dumb question, but is a cpu cooler needed, and if so what would you suggest? I guess same question with a networking card. Both things I'm pretty sure I would need but not 100% sure.


    Part listhttp://pcpartpicker.com/p/VaKx
    CPU: Intel Pentium G2130 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.68 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($166.97 @ Newegg)
    Case: Diablotek CPA-7620 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($37.60 @ Amazon)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $632.74

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    You have a extreme bottle neck with using that Pentium and 7850. Wow is a CPU dependent game, the AMD a10 is actually a stronger CPU then the i3 and save money since you really don't need the discrete graphic card

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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.61 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($139.50 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $638.01
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-05 17:17 EDT-0400)

    6 $ more, better performance from GPU & CPU = no bottleneck. Also grab the 650 Ti Boost before the offer ends 5/9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbeaty View Post
    You have a extreme bottle neck with using that Pentium and 7850. Wow is a CPU dependent game, the AMD a10 is actually a stronger CPU then the i3 and save money since you really don't need the discrete graphic card
    There's about 450927659023 things wrong with what you said when it comes to WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbeaty View Post
    You have a extreme bottle neck with using that Pentium and 7850. Wow is a CPU dependent game, the AMD a10 is actually a stronger CPU then the i3 and save money since you really don't need the discrete graphic card
    Uhh, yeah you do - the APUs need a much faster RAM clockspeed (e.g. 2133MHz+) to come close to the quality of the IB Pentium/Celerion/i3+discrete range.

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    Talked it over with the wife a bit more, going to wait a little longer and save up a little extra and just deal with my crappy old comp till then, so I guess I'll check back in a few months with a bigger budget and see what I can do with that. Thanks for all your help and for keeping me from buying some piece of crap, has been very much appreciated, you guys are awesome.

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    Going second hand can sometimes be a good route too. My current computer was originally 650 pounds 2nd hand, but I bargained down to 400 pounds. This was almost 3 years ago, and the gpu and psu brand new would have come to more than 400 pounds. You just need to have an idea of what level components you will need, as it's better to spend a bit more to have some constant level for more than 6 months.

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    Second hand computers have the problem with parts getting really old really fast. It's totally normal that two years old computer that cost $1000 then runs at about half speed compared to current computer costing $1000.
    Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
    Trolling should be.

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