View Poll Results: Should roots have HP?

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  1. #1

    All roots should have hp

    All roots should have hp so that melee can kill them. So they dont have to sit in them for 8s or force healers to use dispel on roots. It will make pvp way more fun for melee.

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    Even when roots had hp in Ulduar, other people had to kill them for you.
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    Or how about an even better solution: all roots break on damage and/or root durations across the board reduced by 50%.

    Casters/ranged are already flat out better than melee. Hell, even the weakest caster (elemental shaman) will be competitive with the best melee come 5.3.
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    This is for pvp. The reason is that if your comp dosent have freedoms. Roots are op.

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    Nah. If they're really that big a problem, cut the durations and cut the dispels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbeef-LB View Post
    All roots should have hp so that melee can kill them. So they dont have to sit in them for 8s or force healers to use dispel on roots. It will make pvp way more fun for melee.
    Roots should have the casters HP and res, but can only be killed by other players no pets or minions.
    And when I say other players I mean other than the player rooted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbeef-LB View Post
    All roots should have hp so that melee can kill them. So they dont have to sit in them for 8s or force healers to use dispel on roots. It will make pvp way more fun for melee.
    Void Tendrils WONT break to damage to rooted target.. All other roots DO break to damage to rooted targets. Sure, its not that hard to kill tendrils in both PvE and PvP, but there are situations in which targets dont get out of roots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbeef-LB View Post
    All roots should have hp so that melee can kill them. So they dont have to sit in them for 8s or force healers to use dispel on roots. It will make pvp way more fun for melee.
    I don't think you'd like having to target a root and kill it while whatever rooted you is smashing your face in. Most roots break on a sneeze and plenty of classes can break them. Paladins can freedom, warriors can spec safeguard, priests can spec phantasm, rogues can cloak if they want to get out of magic roots, or just drop a smoke bomb to prevent ranged from damaging them if they are rooted etc. etc. Roots are something you are going to have to contend with and are hardly problematic like stuns. If you are looking for an easy way to get out of roots without having to use a CD or take damage you are asking too much.

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    This is almost as bad an idea as that 'wow should have gold tax' one in general.

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    hey can people who play casters can play this game too!?

    Roots should not share DR with any other root regardless of duration... and always should be un-despellabe! also they should drain 10% of target's HP per second of duration and that 10% will be added to the caster's HP! if caster is at 100% HP should be dealt back to the rooted target as shadow damage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    Or how about an even better solution: all roots break on damage and/or root durations across the board reduced by 50%.

    Casters/ranged are already flat out better than melee. Hell, even the weakest caster (elemental shaman) will be competitive with the best melee come 5.3.
    don't overreact =D DK, rogue, feral and to a lesser extend monks are still better than ele

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    Nah, I play mostly melee but they are not a super trouble.

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    If you're going to nerf rooting, you need to get rid of all the root-breaks.

    If you're going to nerf fear, you need to get rid of all the fear-breaks.

    Simple as that.

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    I would be ok with this only if all stuns have HP also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbeef-LB View Post
    All roots should have hp so that melee can kill them. So they dont have to sit in them for 8s or force healers to use dispel on roots. It will make pvp way more fun for melee.
    It will also make pvp way more frustrating for casters.

  16. #16
    Roots having a reasonable amount of health would actually encourage more thinking.

    If you had to blow some sort of minor CD (a rising sun kick, mortal strike, hemo, mangle - something that cost a cooldown or resource) then it'd add some more depth. Melee would have to debate whether to use an attack to break the root (and then reach the target with less damage), or sit the root and pool resources.

    Interesting idea for sure.

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    Almost every root can be dispelled. There is 1 that can't be dispelled, and you can destroy it. Tell your healer to avoid cc so he can dispel you.

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    Maybe reduce casting/attack speed by 25-50% while PvP targets are rooted or feared...

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    Quote Originally Posted by b2121945 View Post
    Almost every root can be dispelled. There is 1 that can't be dispelled, and you can destroy it. Tell your healer to avoid cc so he can dispel you.
    The idea is to make it so that healers dont have to dispel roots.They can use there dispels on more important things like deep freeze,fears,sheeps... Its even worst when a melee is stuck in los of his healer and is stuck in a root for 8 sec. It would be way more fun if the melee could kill the root and get out atleast 2 or 3 seconds under the 8s root duration. It would give melee something to do while in roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbeef-LB View Post
    The idea is to make it so that healers dont have to dispel roots.They can use there dispels on more important things like deep freeze,fears,sheeps... Its even worst when a melee is stuck in los of his healer and is stuck in a root for 8 sec. It would be way more fun if the melee could kill the root and get out atleast 2 or 3 seconds under the 8s root duration. It would give melee something to do while in roots.
    Are you aware that this change would completely break pvp? You are supposed to sit in roots sometimes. You can't have 100% uptime on a target. Roots (and every other cc) punish melees for not being in los (of their healer).
    For example, mage will destroy you, if you let him cast, because he's balanced around spamming instants (he can't cast because of high uptime of melees on him). There should be less uptime, not more.

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