MoP has made me realize how lackluster Cata was. Hell, I even consider MoP to be better than WOTLK. Storywise they're even leveled, WOTLK being somewhat ahead, but in content and overall feel I like MoP the best.
Cataclysm as a whole...not sure I'd say it failed. But Dragon Soul WAS a failure and it left a sour taste in peoples mouths for the end of the expansion.
(But pssst they retconned it so he survived. And was a lot more powerful than he was in the game. A LOT.)
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Maybe if they'd had LFR and/or transmog by launch or FL it would've been different. Although LFR continues to be controversial with some people (despite it being a huge bonus to people who previously couldn't raid) so maybe not.
I'm beginning to see a trend with posts today. This like every other post of a similar theme comes down to the hard-cores, and those who want to be hardcore claiming Cata was amazing. The other spectrum says hell no, and you have those in the middle. I guess its irony that 2-3 years ago id be the one complaining it was to easy, once you grow up and video games and the accolades of others of a similar mindset no longer mean anything you become like those I used to loathe, the ones who didn't want to commit an immense amount of time for a reward that was replaced in 6-9 months.
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The skies over Eorzea beckon. I'll see Azeroth again, someday.
I think it's about time we stopped scapegoating each other and started demanding better from the devs.
Dragon Soul was a terrible, terrible final raid zone. The Deathwing fight was also tremendously dull as a fight. Firelands though I believe was amazing and felt way more like a final raid zone than DS. Apart from DS I don't think cata was that bad. Even BoT and BwD were nicely done raids imo.
I think it was the least good expansion.
As for his appearance in wc 2, they retconned Deathwing into a major lore character all the way back in Warcraft's first novel, Day of the Dragon. Also Knaak's first contribution to the series.
I still think people are exaggerating how bad DS was. Wasn't great and a few fights were like "why am I killing an orc shaman/mage when I'm here to fight Deathwing?". But it doesn't even make the short list for my least favourite raids. It was just mediocre when end of expansion raids have been expected to be amazing since ICC and Sunwell.
Whoa whoa, call off the airstrike. You're saying that Catacylsm was lackluster for other reasons BESIDES that Heroics and Raids demanded a brain?Cataclysm had... guild leveling? Did that really change the way you play? It was more like something passive that happened in the background. Archaeology? I guess archaeology counts. It was only in the final content patch of Cataclysm that we really got some awesome new features (LFR and transmogrification) that shook things up and gave the game a breath of fresh air. It's also worth noting that this was the only expansion where none of the BGs (aside from Tol Barad, perhaps) introduced a new game mode; they were just different arrangements of WSG and AB.
You're crazy! Don't you know this is MMO CHAMPS? LFR HEROES RUN THIS TOWN BRO!
I think the heroics where a giant failure and really hurt the game. There is more one shot mechanics in Cata heroics than there is in Mop LFR. I wanted a bigger challenge than wotlk heroics. For me those where way to boring but they went way off with Cata heroics. There are several fights where a single bad player can wipe a group. That is just bad design for 5 mans.
MoP heroics are perfect imo. Slightly easier than the nerfed heroics of TBC and that is what I wanted.
Every ball thrown can't be a homerun. Idk why people expect a 100% win.... It's delusional, totally unrealistic and we all know it.
"If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.
LFD wasn't a Cata invention. It came out in Wrath.
Loved your Video... Very informative!
Arthas appeared way too much. Fuck, that moron showed himself over and over again, telling us how EASY it would be to kill us now. He was presented as nothing but a loud-mouth with no power to threaten us.
Deathwing instead showed up only a few times and when he showed up, you really had to run away to not get killed.