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  1. #281
    The rogue daggers have a few things to consider.

    1. The proc wasn't very good a lot of the time in pvp. Sure, if you got it to go off at a good time, it could be devastating. But if you get ccd, or your target blinks/sprints/otherwise gets away, or simply dies as it procs, the six seconds of free finishers can pass by without getting a use. This is compounded by the fact you have no idea at how many stacks it will activate. The stacking agility buff that precedes it is probably better in pvp that the final proc.

    2. The ilvl wasn't any higher than other heroic Deathwing weapons. However, I think the daggers got a bad rep because you didn't HAVE to raid herocis to get it. My guild never touched heroic spine or heroic madness, and yet we managed to get FOUR daggers out before we stopped raiding for the expansion. I had the first one, completed before we even started heroics, I think the second one might have too. So I think the complaint wasn't that it was the best weapon in the game, but simply that it was far more accessible than it should have been.

    At least in 5.4 we won't have this problem, since not only is the questline to even get to 5.4's wrathion quest much longer than any of the others, spanning multiple tiers, but said legendaries will be brought down to conquest gear ivl anyway. Maybe the procs will still be strong though, we'll see. But they've nerfed pve trinkets and procs in pvp, why not legendary procs too?

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by HeedmySpeed View Post
    Edit: And about the trash skipping, what's so bad about that? I thought saving time = good?
    I for one think trash is a waste of time. It was alright back when it had some of the bosses abilities and you could essentially "learn" about the boss via trash, but the bridge trash and snails are just ridiculous.
    I'd rather wipe on bosses than trash.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDDGuides View Post
    I for one think trash is a waste of time. It was alright back when it had some of the bosses abilities and you could essentially "learn" about the boss via trash, but the bridge trash and snails are just ridiculous.
    I'd rather wipe on bosses than trash.
    i love the snails though <3

  4. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by Syferite View Post
    They re-did Kalimdor and EK but failed to make it relevant to max levels other than Archaeology. When you speculate on what they could've done with those zones, it just makes you think where Blizzard's head was during the drawing board of the expansion.
    It was my guess -- and still is -- that one of the big motivations for redoing the world was preparing for an Emerald Dream expansion. The ED would reuse a lot of the geographic assets created for Cataclysm.
    "There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
    "Almost every time I have gotten to know a critic personally, they keep up with the criticism but lose the venom." -- Ghostcrawler
    I hate these casual Fridays ruining it for real Fridays.

  5. #285
    It didn't /10chars.

    WoW has never objectively failed.

  6. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    I went into Wrath not knowing a damn thing about Arthas other than he was responsible for EPL/Strath/Scholo.

    By the time we killed him, I knew EVERYTHING about him.

    I fought at his side to "purge" Strath of the plague.
    I saw him get manipulated to focus on his anger.
    I saw him betray Muradin and his friends to get frostmourne.
    I saw him grant powers to beings
    I saw him punish and betray those same beings he gave powers to
    I saw him torture an old friend just out of malice
    He killed me in Howling Fjord, saying death isn't eternal - and that he has a plan for me.
    I even got to PLAY as him... creating armies of undead to slay more people to raise even MORE undead!
    In the end, he kills me again - revealing his plan was to raise us as an elite army.

    Aside from those things, yeah - we didn't see NOTHING of Arthas' back story or motivations.

    Cataclysm? We saw Deathwing get mad at Alextraza... and those few who did the Blasted Lands quest saw him hunt down an egg.

    Aside from that - Deathwing's cunning plan through all those zones was to shout "RAAAAAAARGH!" and burn random patches of land.
    I wish i could up vote this.

    In WOTLK you understood the Lich King. His plan in the end was perfect, Use the one who had the strength to storm your castle and kill your generals as your new army.

    Deathwing felt lame.

    "Humility defeats pride, Master Yang has preached. Pride defeats man"


  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    It was my guess -- and still is -- that one of the big motivations for redoing the world was preparing for an Emerald Dream expansion. The ED would reuse a lot of the geographic assets created for Cataclysm.
    You mean the Hour of Twilight heroic assets, right? I thought Emerald Dream used the original pre-maelstrom Kalimdor.

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