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    unholy dk pvp guide?

    hey guys
    ive been searching for a decent unholy pvp guide but have had no luck so far
    i for the life of me cant find one on here or on the net (forgive me if there is one here i missed)
    any tips?
    cheers

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    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-DK-Unholy-PvP
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...holy-gt-PVP-lt

    These threads offer a bit of info on them, but only a bit. I'm not very savvy on the PvP side of the game, so maybe another poster could help you more then this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxweii View Post
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-DK-Unholy-PvP
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...holy-gt-PVP-lt

    These threads offer a bit of info on them, but only a bit. I'm not very savvy on the PvP side of the game, so maybe another poster could help you more then this.
    cheers heaps mate much appreciated

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    Anytime ^^ though I do hope another dk who's savvy on PvP stops by as I only helped a bit :x

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    There is this dude:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ReinhartDaRussian

    He have been playing Death Knight since start Season 8 and is frikking amazing
    He does very good UNHOLY Death Knight videos / Guides

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    Quote Originally Posted by hirazu View Post
    There is this dude:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ReinhartDaRussian

    He have been playing Death Knight since start Season 8 and is frikking amazing
    He does very good UNHOLY Death Knight videos / Guides
    This person beat me to it, but that's the video's I used. I still need a ton of practice with unholy in pvp but his video on pvp keybinds actually helped me out with keybinds as a whole. Which I have taken into pve. Definitely recommend this guys videos. He has multiple videos, but I like that he gives beginner, intermediate, and advanced tips to slowly get you better instead of just forcing stuff down your throat before you are ready.

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    Makes me wonder, why are there so few DK PVP videos? on WCM DK is by far the most underrepresented of all classes. It's definitely not the least played. Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovyn View Post
    Makes me wonder, why are there so few DK PVP videos? on WCM DK is by far the most underrepresented of all classes. It's definitely not the least played. Why is that?
    lack of big numbers
    lack of easily visible skill (it's rather hard to keep track of someones rune usage during a fight while still watching for Silence/Stun/Interrupt/etc.)
    lack of players that upload movies

    Why'd you want to record and upload movies when people can also tune in on twitch and watch you live or your highlight reel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyanmaru View Post
    lack of big numbers
    lack of easily visible skill (it's rather hard to keep track of someones rune usage during a fight while still watching for Silence/Stun/Interrupt/etc.)
    lack of players that upload movies
    This makes sense. It's also the only thing I could think of. But Ret's and Warriors are not much more "fun" to watch either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyanmaru View Post
    Why'd you want to record and upload movies when people can also tune in on twitch and watch you live or your highlight reel?
    I only watch youtube vids becasue I am not interested in unfiltered stream stuff and also I am not up when most of those people are playing (time zone...) - I am sure I'm not alone (just as stream lovers aren't).

    Did you ever see a well edited PVP Video? It can be art. It can be very very entertaining. It can be something a stream can never be.
    (edit2 - wrong link before-: watch this for example: http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=213575 )

    Also, it isn't a DK specific problem, it applies to all classes and can't be the reason for DK to have less vids on WCM or youtube. But since you mention it, are there good DK streams?
    Last edited by Crovyn; 2013-07-29 at 12:58 PM.

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    Heh, I've edited a number of PvP videos for guildies, no big names. But I know very well how much work goes into making good videos. A 20 minute clip can take 4-5 hours of work, or more. DKs never had a big WCM/youtube community from what I remember.

    I rarely watch WoW videos anymore, outside of the odd world first kill. Haven't really PvP'd since WotLK either. So I can't really give advice on good videos or streams. Though I think "Reinhart da russian" has some quality content out there, at least it's a name that was thrown around in almost all threads here where people asked about videos/streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delion View Post
    Necrotic
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    Just as valid as:

    mortal strike
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    or

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    or in your case

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    so ... yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovyn View Post
    Makes me wonder, why are there so few DK PVP videos? on WCM DK is by far the most underrepresented of all classes. It's definitely not the least played. Why is that?
    Just from my experience as a Youtuber (I don't PvP much but even if I did), it would be so BORING to do. Anything I upload I have fun doing, I enjoy the time I spend making and editing the video, and I try to make it as high quality as I can (despite some mic interference I have been having ffs). Doing DK PvP would just be..... lackluster. You already have to (as Nyan says) keep track of so many things, that making sure the quality of the video is good, doing active commentary (or sans audio) and also trying to well just not suck tremendously, it would just be too much. And also I am glad Nyan points out too, that a 20 min vid can have hours of work put into it just for those 20 mins. I don't think that many serious PvPing dk's want to invest the time to make video's for it, even if they are super epic at what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxweii View Post
    Just from my experience as a Youtuber (I don't PvP much but even if I did), it would be so BORING to do. Anything I upload I have fun doing, I enjoy the time I spend making and editing the video, and I try to make it as high quality as I can (despite some mic interference I have been having ffs). Doing DK PvP would just be..... lackluster. You already have to (as Nyan says) keep track of so many things, that making sure the quality of the video is good, doing active commentary (or sans audio) and also trying to well just not suck tremendously, it would just be too much. And also I am glad Nyan points out too, that a 20 min vid can have hours of work put into it just for those 20 mins. I don't think that many serious PvPing dk's want to invest the time to make video's for it, even if they are super epic at what they do.
    So beside the resource watching which prevents "live commentary" (which would be out of place in a great well edited vid anyway) it's more the midnset of DK players in general you say. It's not only about PVP movies though. Thoughts about the class, showing off new stuff on the ptr / in the beta of each next expansion etc... (youtube content) is quite nice to for the community of any class.

    Talking aobut videos like those:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAOzxjABy4k
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewQHyJCMalU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvsXlUaa99E

    Like I said it's a community thing which I am missing for DKs. Well there are channels like the one above or Reinhart but nothing close to the amount other classes have.

    Anyway, I guess I am just trying to say it would be nice if more DKs would spent the time doing that but there's nothing I can do about it anyway. Thanks for your comments trying to clarify though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovyn View Post
    So beside the resource watching which prevents "live commentary" (which would be out of place in a great well edited vid anyway) it's more the midnset of DK players in general you say. It's not only about PVP movies though. Thoughts about the class, showing off new stuff on the ptr / in the beta of each next expansion etc... (youtube content) is quite nice to for the community of any class.

    Talking aobut videos like those:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAOzxjABy4k
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewQHyJCMalU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvsXlUaa99E

    Like I said it's a community thing which I am missing for DKs. Well there are channels like the one above or Reinhart but nothing close to the amount other classes have.

    Anyway, I guess I am just trying to say it would be nice if more DKs would spent the time doing that but there's nothing I can do about it anyway. Thanks for your comments trying to clarify though
    I would say I qualify as a member of the dk youtuber comminity as I do make sure I show off things specific to dk's (as well as hunters, shammies, mage usually as they are my fav classes) :P Though I know what you mean, there is a huge lack of those whom will report stuff for dk's. We are left to our own to fester x.x

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