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    Wrathion for Warchief

    What if I told you that Garrosh Hellscream is an honorable orc; a good leader commited to the Horde, uncorrupted by dark forces. What happened to the forthright mag'har Garrosh of Burning Crusade? What happened to that true hearted orc of an orc that Thrall put in power? What if his very worst moments in recent lore have been exagerrated, and have had critical details omitted, excised, or covered up? On top of that, what if his more benign acts have been overlooked, covered up, and downplayed? What if there was an agitator, a malignant influence working from the shadows to harm the Warchief's reputation, to turn the horde itself against him. What if the conflict between Garrosh and Voljin was engineered? If someone 'leaked' incriminating false intel that predisposed one another against each other. What if Garrosh was receiving false reports of seditious activities, and his seemingly egregious measures with the Kor'kron are not unfounded. What if agent provocateurs posing as Kor'kron commit acts of violence and brutality to conjure antipathy towards Garrosh?

    Who would do such a thing? Who could do such a thing? Wrathion. Wrathion, whose motives have long been bathed in shadows, has this entire time been angling to make himself warchief of the Horde- to inherit one of the two greatest armies on Azeroth for himself. By conducting a campaign to sabotage the stability and PR of an otherwise loyal, competent, and successful warchief he has pushed the Horde to the brink of revolution. All the while he has been ingratiating himself to Alliance and Horde heroes, and earning the trust and friendship of Anduin Wrynn. At the final hour he will step in, 'help' free both the Horde and the Alliance from the 'threat' of Hellscream, earning hero status for his direct and bold involvement storming Orgrimmar.

    How does this make him a cantidate for Warchief, though? There are many other more likely cantidates. Wrathion has garnered some esteem amongst Horde heroes, but his real angle has been in befriending Anduin Wrynn. What relevance does that have to the accession of the Horde Warchief, you ask? The Occupation of Orgrimmar.

    Wrathion manipulated it to be that the Horde resistance thoughtlessly sought and accepted the Alliance's help to invade Orgrimmar and take down Garrosh (for lack of strength and numbers to do it themselves). After Garrosh was deposed, the Horde resistance found themselves in an awkward position; the Varian Wrynn's Alliance forces remained in occupation. Why wouldn't they? For decades they have struggled against the Horde as their primary rival, suffered great losses, and lived in fear. Now, at last, they hold Orgrimmar. Why leave and let the Horde re-establish themselves?

    No, Varian Wrynn has insisted that Northwatch remain as a 'peacekeeping force' in Orgrimmar, to help rebuild and maintain security. In truth he never intends to let the Horde regain independence ever again, and Jaina Proudmoore stands proudly by him in this decision. Durotar and the Barrens become a neutral territories, with Northwatch guards patrolling Ratchet, Crossroads, Razor Hill, Sen'jin village, and Orgrimmar. Dissenters are 'disappeared' by squads of Kirin Tor 'peacemancers'. The outer territories of the Horde remain hostile to the Alliance, but with Orgrimmar under occupation, and each under threat from a unified Alliance, they are uncoordinated and unable to organise.

    Of course, the subjects of the Horde are growing increasingly hostile at this Alliance occupation of Durotar and the Barrens. The resistance, led by Vol'jin, has turned from fighting the Kor'kron to engaging Northwatch in guerilla warfare. Taverns in Ratchet full of Northwatch troopers explode violently, Northwatch ships are rigged to sink at sea, lone patrolmen are sniped from the shadows. The situation is becoming untenable. Varian is unwilling to listen to reason, to risk allowing the Horde to reform and become the threat it once was, so he clamps down ever tighter than ever upon the Horde Resistance. This only provokes ever greater sympathy for the resistance.

    All the while Wrathion, is becoming a leading figure amongst the Horde, he has withdrawn to Dustwallow Marsh, where he rallies a force he calls 'the True Horde'. Decrying the 'cowardly' tactics of the Horde Resistance, he calls upon the heroes of the Horde to stand by him with Strength and Honour. Little bombs will not make a free people, he argues.

    As the one person who might be able to sway the King's mind, Anduin Wrynn approaches his father. He raises the hypotethical of ending the occupation without risking the Alliance to future Horde aggression. What if an 'acceptable' cantidate were found to lead the Horde. Not an Orc, not Vol'jin, or a fel tainted blood elf. What about a hero of the horde, who is also a trusted friend of the Prince of Stormwind himself? Peace must be given a chance, Anduin pleads. Varian refuses, the risk is to great to put on the word of a dragon (the son of Deathwing no less).

    Having amassed a great enough force, Wrathion marches upon the Barrens with his army. Overwhelming the forces therein, he honorably gives them the opportunity to withdraw to Ratchet, bearing with them an ultimatum: in two weeks either Varian Wrynn meets Wrathion to discuss the terms by which the occupation will end and peace shall exist between the Alliance and the Horde, or Ratchet shall fall. Varian refuses, and Wrathion makes a feint attack against Razor Hill- scrambling Ratchet defenses Northward, Wrathion's main force emerges from Ratchet bay and Ratchet falls as promised. Ratchet is not sacked, and prisoners of war are treated humanely. As a Gesture of goodwill Wrathion extends that all prisoners will be released unharmed if Varian but meets him to discuss a treaty.

    At Anduin's insistence, Varian accepts. He is impressed by the discipline and restraint of the Horde forces under Wrathion- Wrathion explains that the Horde has a noble heart, just one that is easily cast astray by tyrants. Wrathion explains that for years now it has been his greatest wish to bring peace to Azeroth, but that without the extermination of the Horde or the Alliance, that could never be possible. Such it was that he has set himself to gaining the position he now occupies- one where he might negotiate peace on behalf of the horde. Wanting to waste no time haggling, Wrathion proposes a generous deal: The Alliance is to ccease it's occupation of Durotar and the Barrens; Ashenvale and Hillsbrad are to be returned to the Alliance; A permanent peace treaty is to be made, wherein the Horde swears never to make a first strike against the Alliance. Despite the generous deal, Varian asks for more; that Vol'jin and Sylvannas be turned over to the Kirin Tor for imprisonment in the Violet hold for War Crimes. Wration sympathises, but insists that were he to comply, the Horde itself would fragment, and the treaty would be for naught. Varian persists, and at last Wrathion makes the compromise, Sylvanas and Sylvanas only shall be handed over- but Vol'jin and his Horde Resistance shall remain unpunished. Giving great pause, and after much urging, Varian accepts.

    Varian keeps his word and pulls occupying troops out of Durotar as power is transitioned to Wrathion. A grand day of ceremony takes place; Wrathion is sworn in as Warchief, A peace Treaty with Varian Wrynn to be signed immediately after, and elsewhere, (an alarmingly compliant) Sylvanas is taken into custody. At last the Alliance shall know peace, a tear of joy forms in Anduin Wrynn's eye- it is finally happening. Wrathion is sworn in, and the treaty is signed- the Warchief and High King shake hands and a great applause is underscored with fireworks.

    -then, teleporting into the fray is a near-dead Jaina and several bedraggled Kirin Tor mages. Jaina to call out, but one of the retching mages that teleported in with her convulses and turns into a ghoul, leaping at her. Anduin dashes over and obliterates the undead mage in a flash of holy light. Struggling to maintain consciousness, Jaina rasps to the young Prince "A trap... scourge blight, the Horde bombed Dalaran with Scourge Blight. Sylvanas is free..." Varian at last notices Jaina and Anduin amidst the revelry, and the look of horror on Anduin's face. Before he can act he is immolated in black dragon flames, as Wrathion assumes his (now juvenile rather than whelp) dragon form. Anduin's howls of despair are drowned out by Wrathion's cackling, "You fool! Did you think you could tame the Horde? Ha! By handing it to me, you have made it more dangerous than ever." Turning to the crowds of Orgrimmar, Wrathion continues "Warriors of the Horde, you have been shamed and dominated by these Alliance Weaklings. Claim your honor back, may the valleys of Orgrimmar flow with their blood!"

    Jaina manages to teleport herself and Anduin out of Orgrimmar with her last mote of strength, and Anduin is changed somewhat- his youthful naivety scarred by Wrathion's betray; the seed of vengefulness planted in his heart. His father died for his unrealistic notions. Varian was right all along, he was the High King the Alliance needed; there could be no peace with the Horde. Together with Jaina he would see Wrathion and the Horde pay for their treachery. In this case, the only way to peace is violence.

    From here you have the much more popular Anduin as High King ruling closely with Jaina in a 'ballsier' alliance. The Horde is led by a goddamn Dragon, a Black Dragon, the last of his kind. The Warchief and the High King have a very personal relationship- once friends turned enemies most bitter.

    TL;DR All of Cata and MoP has actually been Wrathion's gambit to become Warchief. Garrosh wasn't even evil, Wrathion betrays Anduin and kills Varian. End result; Horde gets Dragon Warchief, Alliance get badass Anduin.

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    Wrathion works in the shadows...
    Let's keep it this way...
    bah
    Blizzard will keep it that way...
    Woop Woop Woop...

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    Sorry, but can you run this down in brief? Are you basicly saying you think Wrathion corrupted Garrosh and so wants to take control of the horde?
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    Has every one forgot that wrathion is still a whelp? Not to older than the ones we slaughter for quest in dust wallow marsh and burning steps. We all know they are born right off the bat with the intelligence of a 20 year old. But he is very vulnerable except for the protection of his gaurds. That doesnt mean he is less scheming and clever though.

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    Wrathion has nothing to do with the hordes development, and he should stick that way.
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    Or maybe Wrathion gets the Warchief title to rally the horde against the Burning Legion in the next expansion while being at peace with the alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by This Guy View Post
    Or maybe Wrathion gets the Warchief title to rally the horde against the Burning Legion in the next expansion while being at peace with the alliance.
    He isn't a horde character, he should stick to his neutral grey role.

    Tell me how this makes sense. A DRAGON As Warchief....

    Tell me how that begins to make sense to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by composemail View Post
    What if I told you that Garrosh Hellscream is an honorable orc; a good leader commited to the Horde, uncorrupted by dark forces.
    I'd ask you "what game have you been playing?" Because that's nothing like Garrosh. He was never that way.

    What he was during Burning Crusade was an emo overgrown manchild with daddy issues, who still got to be chief of his tribe because *reasons* and did everything in his power to hinder any actual useful activities because it was cramping his style complaining about how crap his life was in front of that campfire.

    During Wrath he was suddenly a brash, boastful and foolhardy overgrown manchild with daddy issues, who got to be chief of the Warsong Clan because *reasons* (jeeze I'd hate to be whoever got ousted from that position despite being the Warsong leader for nearly a decade) and did everything in his powers to hinder any actual useful activities because the concept of working alongside the Alliance wasn't cool enough for him and he'd rather attack anything that moved because he hates the Alliance due to *reasons*.

    During Cata he was still a brash, boastful and foolhardy overgrown manchild with daddy issues, only now he was given even more responsibility because *reasons* and did everything in his power to wreck the relatively stable brotherhood that made up the Horde because everyone smaller then him was now beneith his respect and he now hates Trolls and Goblins for *reasons*. He also considers advice to be an insult to his leadership, and kills anyone who remotely displeases him (bonus points if they don't fight back).

    During Mists he is still a brash, boastful and foolhardy overgrown manchild with daddy issues, only now he's decided that whatever he sees should belong to him and power at any cost is a wise strategy, all while doing everything in his power to alienate any remaining non-Orcs in the Horde, picking fights with anyone he comes across (including Pandaren who want to serve in the Horde) and is an expert at turning allies into enemies and promoting the worst Orcs possible into positions of authority.

    The only difference between BC and Mists Garrosh is the model, the authority and the ego. He's always been dishonourable and cowardly - only now he's got an army to hide behind.

    Oh, and Wrathion will never be Warchief. Why do people keep suggesting this? Varian Wrynn is more likely to be the next Warchief then an infant Black Dragon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    He isn't a horde character, he should stick to his neutral grey role.

    Tell me how this makes sense. A DRAGON As Warchief....

    Tell me how that begins to make sense to you.
    Well... it would be something new... and Blizzard said that the new warchief will be someone we don't expect.... so let him dream Trassk... let him dream...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    Well... it would be something new... and Blizzard said that the new warchief will be someone we don't expect.... so let him dream Trassk... let him dream...
    ....

    HE'S A DRAGON.

    He has NOTHING to do with the horde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    ....

    HE'S A DRAGON.

    He has NOTHING to do with the horde.
    He is infact black dragon.
    They have quite a lot to do with horde. Including manipulative leadership.

    As the matter of fact, thrall is black dragon as well.
    That would explain why he have same voice as nefarian and could fill role of black aspect.
    Last edited by Arrashi; 2013-05-06 at 01:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Sorry, but can you run this down in brief? Are you basicly saying you think Wrathion corrupted Garrosh and so wants to take control of the horde?
    Close, I'm proposing the idea that Garrosh wasn't even 'corrupted' (because a lot of people includi8ng myself are tired of this canned plotline), and instead Blizzards cliched plotline is just how things appear to be- when actually Garrosh isn't evil at all. Wrathion is working behind the scenes to make him look bad, feed him bad intel, and trick him into making bad decisions.

    I know it isn't how it is, or how it is going to be. It's just a cool 'what if' on the unfolding of the succession story of the Horde.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathpath View Post
    Has every one forgot that wrathion is still a whelp? Not to older than the ones we slaughter for quest in dust wallow marsh and burning steps. We all know they are born right off the bat with the intelligence of a 20 year old. But he is very vulnerable except for the protection of his gaurds. That doesnt mean he is less scheming and clever though.
    No, nobody forgot, but you seem to be quite pleased with yourself for knowing. See this extract is speculative, that means it deals with the future. Notice how I said '*now* a juvenile drake'- that's indication to people like you that I know he is currently a whelp, but for dramatic effect at that point in the speculative plotline, it would be cool to reveal he has grown a little. I'm fairly sure blizzard hasn't published any hard numbers on the life cycle of dragons and precisely how old Wrathion is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Wrathion has nothing to do with the hordes development, and he should stick that way.
    It's speculative, mate. A 'What if' where Wrathions scheming all this while has been part of a plot to put him in the driving seat of the biggest baddest military machine on Azeroth- that the shroud of uncertainty surrounding his character masks a ruthless Machiavellian tyrant in the Making.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    He isn't a horde character, he should stick to his neutral grey role.
    I like it when things change, when characters develop, and when alliegances shift. But I guess some prefer a static ensemble cast.


    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Tell me how this makes sense. A DRAGON As Warchief....

    Tell me how that begins to make sense to you.
    It might be a generational thing. As someone who got into Warcraft with Orcs and Humans and Warcraft II, nothing makes more sense than a Dragon for Warchief; it screams 'Horde'. The Horde needs less peace pipes, shamanism and harmony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    ....

    HE'S A DRAGON.

    He has NOTHING to do with the horde.
    Yet, he, in general, don't have nothing to do with most of the things that happens between the horde and the Alliance but, in the end, he's there, he's watching the conflict throut the shadows and trying to change it destination..., and as i said before.... Let him dream....






    BTW no i don't think that will ever happen but let him especulate, let him dream that we will have the son of DeathWing as our warchief, yes the son of the one who caused the cataclysm, who made many horde and alliance people lose its family, he who once manipulated the horde and his breathen (The red dragons -dragon soul-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by composemail View Post
    Close, I'm proposing the idea that Garrosh wasn't even 'corrupted' (because a lot of people includi8ng myself are tired of this canned plotline), and instead Blizzards cliched plotline is just how things appear to be- when actually Garrosh isn't evil at all. Wrathion is working behind the scenes to make him look bad, feed him bad intel, and trick him into making bad decisions.

    I know it isn't how it is, or how it is going to be. It's just a cool 'what if' on the unfolding of the succession story of the Horde.



    No, nobody forgot, but you seem to be quite pleased with yourself for knowing. See this extract is speculative, that means it deals with the future. Notice how I said '*now* a juvenile drake'- that's indication to people like you that I know he is currently a whelp, but for dramatic effect at that point in the speculative plotline, it would be cool to reveal he has grown a little. I'm fairly sure blizzard hasn't published any hard numbers on the life cycle of dragons and precisely how old Wrathion is.



    It's speculative, mate. A 'What if' where Wrathions scheming all this while has been part of a plot to put him in the driving seat of the biggest baddest military machine on Azeroth- that the shroud of uncertainty surrounding his character masks a ruthless Machiavellian tyrant in the Making.

    I like it when things change, when characters develop, and when alliegances shift. But I guess some prefer a static ensemble cast.


    It might be a generational thing. As someone who got into Warcraft with Orcs and Humans and Warcraft II, nothing makes more sense than a Dragon for Warchief; it screams 'Horde'. The Horde needs less peace pipes, shamanism and harmony.
    You know that Blizzard already said that Garrosh is not corrupted, he's just an asshole...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    *snip*
    I see Garrosh as a brash, well intentioned and foolhardy overgrown manchild with daddy issues- not a monster bent on alienating everyone.

    The implicit suggestions was that what if the increasingly flanderised characterisation of Garrosh is the result of meddling, and not bad writing.

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    Thanks for posting an actual cool story! I would hate to see Varian go, but that would just boil my blood enough to kill horde for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by composemail View Post
    Alliance get badass Anduin.

    *chuckles*
    "Terror, darkness, power? The Forsaken crave not these things; the Forsaken ARE these things."

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    Wouldn't that mean that the reborn Black dragonflight would join the Horde?

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    I like your story, but since our Horde characters have been eyewitnesses to several of Garrosh's... excesses, I don't see it happening.

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    A nice story, but it needs more Sylvanas.
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    Ya i think Karadros got it right sadly..
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    Well, that trailer is spoiled forever now. Never be able to watch it again without noticing that.
    So thanks for that. Karadros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    BTW no i don't think that will ever happen but let him especulate, let him dream that we will have the son of DeathWing as our warchief, yes the son of the one who caused the cataclysm, who made many horde and alliance people lose its family, he who once manipulated the horde and his breathen (The red dragons -dragon soul-)
    I also don't think it'd happen. That said, being the son of Deathwing I don't think dashes this theory- it doesn't help, sure, but if he earned respect amongst the Horde resistance taking down Garrosh and pushing back the Alliance occupation, I think it could be overcome. It wasn't him, but his father, after all. Certainly it would be a point of contention.

    Anyhow, yes, this is very much about me dreaming of a bold and drastic stroke in Warcraft Lore. It doesn't even have to be this idea- I just wish Blizz would take off the kid gloves with lore- like they used to back when Warcraft was an RTS. Massive landgrabs, power shuffles, alliances, and devastating losses. Since Vanilla the status quo has been a bit too steady. Territory has stayed pretty much static with some minor regions swapping influence, and the addition of new races has been equal in terms of the power equation. The need to keep the game balanced does not equate to a need to keep geopolitics balanced.

    Screw fan bitching, lets have some big Alliance Horde victories and losses- some unexpected and drastic developments in lore. What if Moira and the Dark Irons live up to everyone's suspicion, and she takes Ironforge in a bloodless coup- declaring herself dowager empress and mobilising the subterreanean city as an ironfisted military regime. Varian initially intends to do something about it, but her first act is retake the Arathi Highlands. Ultimately he decides at the expense of thee Dwarves that it's kinda better for the Alliance to have a psychopathic military powerhouse pushing up against the Forsaken to the North. Or whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by maxilian View Post
    You know that Blizzard already said that Garrosh is not corrupted, he's just an asshole...
    I did not know that; splendid news.

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