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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Spichora View Post
    Yes of course, she will experience same what she experienced when she was brought back in life as Banshee. But this time this feeling will be doubled with responsibility for Forsaken and Hatred against Everyone. As undead she can trust No one and hate them but as Live being its bit different.
    And that would make for a great story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    + Royal apotheracy surely can put they knowledge to create some toys. And constructs if needed.
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    She has some unflattering stuff on her resume, but I doubt we're going to have to deal with that with all due seriousness, not so soon after Garrosh anyway. The downfall of Horde's pride ought to end with him, afterwards it is just beating on a dead horse.

    The new Chief will probably have a chat with her, to make sure they're on the same level on things. Then it will be like it was during Thrall's time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spichora View Post
    Yeah but come on it is not real sex. Can you imagine F*cking someone rotting dead and you are FORCED to do it! When you are alive it comes naturally. And I dont think Undead people can experience pleasure when having sex.
    Hmmm, well she is a banshee. Can't she leave her body in the middle of the night and go to Hearthglen or something? I'm sure there are lots of women she can possess there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Hmmm, well she is a banshee. Can't she leave her body in the middle of the night and go to Hearthglen or something? I'm sure there are lots of women she can possess there.
    Still you dont feel a Sh*t No orgasm no pleasure.


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  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Spichora View Post
    No orgasm no pleasure.
    No reason.

    Now go back to 4chan you deviated degenerates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    No reason.

    Now go back to 4chan you deviated degenerates.
    I've never been there TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    There's a difference between killing people to raise them and raising people after killing them just because their bodies are easily accessible.

    ---------- Post added 2013-05-06 at 02:27 PM ----------


    Again. There's a difference between the 2nd generation (LK) DKs and the PC DKs. The original Scourge DKs during the 3rd War were corrupted paladins that chose to join the LK. The PC DKs in Archerus are a later generation of DKs that were raised from the dead.
    DK's are still more sophisticated than your normal scourge. Their will was bound to the LK but they still had their own personalities. I love to use Thassarian as an example, even as a DK he showed his own version of compassion for his brothers when he sends you to rescue Koltira from the Scarlet. He actually cared about the well being of his fellow DK's, which is actually odd for a DK to do. But in the end, it was all for the LK. And, interestingly enough, DK's in general actually have a code of honor, twisted as it may be.

    This is what made them so dangerous. They could think, and calculate. I wouldn't say they had total free will, I would more say they had a limited will.
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    Well, I suppose the next Warchief's eagerness to reprimand Sylvanas for the methods she has been using since the Gilnean campaign will depend upon how devoted they are to diplomacy and normalising Horde-Alliance relations and whether or not their personal moral code makes room for pragmatism.

    Apart from making use of weaponry which Garrosh had told her not to use, though she made use of them because they offered the only feasible way for her to carry out his orders of seizing Gilneas, Sylvanas and the Forsaken have done very little (if anything) to cause grievances to the Horde. The only people injured by the Forsaken campaign in Lordaeron have been members of the Alliance, enemies to both factions (Scarlets, Scourge etc.) or members of races actively hostile to most Horde races.

    Sure, Sylvanas has been a bitch, but she's been a bitch towards the enemy. Unless the next Warchief wants peace or to at least conduct an "honourable" war, then the only words they need to be having with Sylvanas are, "Please, just do as I ask and lay off the icky stuff.".

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Keile View Post
    DK's are still more sophisticated than your normal scourge. Their will was bound to the LK but they still had their own personalities. I love to use Thassarian as an example, even as a DK he showed his own version of compassion for his brothers when he sends you to rescue Koltira from the Scarlet. He actually cared about the well being of his fellow DK's, which is actually odd for a DK to do. But in the end, it was all for the LK. And, interestingly enough, DK's in general actually have a code of honor, twisted as it may be.

    This is what made them so dangerous. They could think, and calculate. I wouldn't say they had total free will, I would more say they had a limited will.
    It's not unlike the Zerg. Cerebrates were sentient and could act autonomously, but are still bound to the will of the Overmind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    It's not unlike the Zerg. Cerebrates were sentient and could act autonomously, but are still bound to the will of the Overmind.
    That's a pretty good example. Much like the newer Broodmothers heh. Actually the Overmind itself was bound when you take into account the story in SC2.
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    It baffles me beyond all belief that people actually think Sylvanas will become Warchief of the Horde.


    She doesn't give a rats ass about anything but the Forsaken and her cause. She doesn't care for the Horde, or her allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    No reason.

    Now go back to 4chan you deviated degenerates.
    Pfff, they don't even come close to 4chan level. Those... things... cannot be unseen.

  14. #174
    So much jealous teenage girl syndrome towards Sylvanas in this thread...
    Sylvanas for Warchief 2013!!!

    But seriously I think what they mean by deal with her is going to be a kind of bargain. Maybe our warchief is on deaths door when Sylvanas and her remaining Val'kyr arrive. The deal will establish the undead as respected members of the Horde. I also expect Vereesa to die at some point, and Sylvanas to show up there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    She has some unflattering stuff on her resume, but I doubt we're going to have to deal with that with all due seriousness, not so soon after Garrosh anyway. The downfall of Horde's pride ought to end with him, afterwards it is just beating on a dead horse.
    We honestly do not need another raid/story where Horde players end up having to kill other Horde again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinansho View Post
    So much jealous teenage girl syndrome towards Sylvanas in this thread...
    Sylvanas for Warchief 2013!!!

    But seriously I think what they mean by deal with her is going to be a kind of bargain. Maybe our warchief is on deaths door when Sylvanas and her remaining Val'kyr arrive. The deal will establish the undead as respected members of the Horde. I also expect Vereesa to die at some point, and Sylvanas to show up there too.
    I dont think Vareesa will die because High elves dont have leader except her. If she dies this will Threaten High elves to disband and go on their own ways, some will even join Horde back to their Brethren. I think Vareesa will remain untouched until Alleria returns and then We will see, one of 3 sisters might die and most big target might be Vareesa (Blizzard wise) because there will be less critics and whining. But I love all 3 sisters I would like to see them united once again.

    As for Dealing with sylvanas I think its just until SoO will begin in some questline or even Scenario Garrosh will go to Sylvanas and threaten her or attempt to Force her aid him against Rebellion, activating his Kor'Kron in Undercity and even harming her that will later Trigger Wrath of Sylvanas and in SoO she will appear and kick motherfuckers ass!


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    I know the major alliance in The Horde is now between Vol'jin, Baine, and Lor'themar. It was implied that Sylvanas was supportive of this coup but could not effectively join because Garrosh holds a tight leash on her (and he controls the Undercity with his Kor'kron). I think we'll see Sylvanas integrate more effectively into The Horde after Garrosh's downfall since she will have allies who trust her. All the same, if she renews her relationship with the nathrezim she will be then be affiliated with the Burning Legion (which is rumored to be the next expansion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    All the same, if she renews her relationship with the nathrezim she will be then be affiliated with the Burning Legion (which is rumored to be the next expansion).
    she never had much of a "relationship" between the Dreadlords, more just an means to an end.
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    Doesn't using the plague basically make the land useless to all the other Horde races?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebecca191 View Post
    Doesn't using the plague basically make the land useless to all the other Horde races?
    Does it matter? It only has to be usable by the Forsaken

    Plus better to have an area be useless than to leave it in the hands of the enemy
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