Thread: Rabid change

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    Rabid change

    Does this apply to all specs? If so...


    Slight nerf for BM. and slight buff for survival. Interesting.

    Currently:

    BM - 1.4m cd
    Survival / MM - 2m

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    Does this apply to all specs? If so...
    Believe so.

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    Exotic Beasts now reduces the cooldown of your Pet Special Abilities by 1%, down from 30%.

    That sounds a bit bugged to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electronicus View Post
    Exotic Beasts now reduces the cooldown of your Pet Special Abilities by 1%, down from 30%.

    That sounds a bit bugged to be honest.
    I don't really understand this, basically does 1%=nothing?

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    I wonder if they are testing BM with no cooldown reduction, and it was just easier to make it 1% (essentially zero) than have a programmer remove that part from the passive ability. If they decide they want it, then a programmer can go do his/her thing.

    Kinda takes away from the BM being better with pets thing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OswinOswald View Post
    I don't really understand this, basically does 1%=nothing?
    More like "1%" = datamining error or a change without the proper numbers yet in place.

    [Edit: Or what Bendak said, in which case, yes, essentially zero.]

    They also may be tweaking it in preparation for the Blink Strikes talent overhaul.

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    Looks like they are removing (not just reducing) the reduced pet cooldowns that BM gets. Most likely this is a PvP based change to address our pets cc's. If this stays, we will most likely see the scatter trap change reverted.

    The Rabid change was a way to close the gap between BM and the other specs while not really touching BM that much.

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    I think they are doing these minor nerfs so that with blink strikes bm pet damage doesn't spin out of control, because bm on ptr is insane atm.

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    talking about pve,i don't see where's the nerf,instead isn't this a buff?simply rabid reduced cd no?

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    A Blizzard rep has already commented on Twitter that the changes are PvP focused, to increase pet cc ability cool downs so they can revert the scatter/trap change, which was reverted in the last PTR patch. However, they are decreasing the cool down on non-cc abilities so that Hunter PvE pet damage doesn't take a hit.

    I fully expect they will screw it up and we'll end up with an overall dps nerf, but let's see what happens on the PTR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mettimo View Post
    talking about pve,i don't see where's the nerf,instead isn't this a buff?simply rabid reduced cd no?
    Rabid is on a 1.4min CD, because of the Exotic Beast pet ability reduction. That's basically being made 1%(Or stated, basically gone), and Rabid is getting a base CD reduction from 2mins to 1.5mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendak View Post
    I wonder if they are testing BM with no cooldown reduction, and it was just easier to make it 1% (essentially zero) than have a programmer remove that part from the passive ability. If they decide they want it, then a programmer can go do his/her thing.

    Kinda takes away from the BM being better with pets thing though.
    pretty much this. I think this is just a fast change to get it onto the PTR without having to worry about editing the actual tooltip text. I also think behind the scenes it's actually 0%, but if they put 0% on the tooltip, a stack overflow occurs. basically, because they assign a zero, the system thinks it's actually a massive negative number and shows 214768% or something like that.

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    maybe its suppose to be 10%?
    it gives BM stronger pets than the other specs, but not that big advantage

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    The stated goal is to increase the cooldown of the specials that affect PvP while not affecting the specials that affect PvE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conjor View Post
    Looks like they are removing (not just reducing) the reduced pet cooldowns that BM gets. Most likely this is a PvP based change to address our pets cc's. If this stays, we will most likely see the scatter trap change reverted.

    The Rabid change was a way to close the gap between BM and the other specs while not really touching BM that much.
    The scatter trap DR change was reverted because of this.

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    Just combine this with upcoming blink strikes chance. Going to love it.

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    Spirit Mend is 40 sec cd now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrooge McDuck View Post
    pretty much this. I think this is just a fast change to get it onto the PTR without having to worry about editing the actual tooltip text. I also think behind the scenes it's actually 0%, but if they put 0% on the tooltip, a stack overflow occurs. basically, because they assign a zero, the system thinks it's actually a massive negative number and shows 214768% or something like that.
    I was able to confirm with a dev that it is meant to be 0% and that the tooltip display is just incorrect.

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    Rabid's cooldown for BM is going up by 7% as a result of the change. Blizz, just let the new Blink Strikes talent go live as is and I'll refrain from whining over a 6-second increase to a (previously) 84-second dps CD.

    I might still squabble quibble over whether it's right to call the Spirit Mend nerf a change that "doesn't affect PvE," but ... nah, just give me the new Blink Strikes talent, plox. Makes my panda hunter a happy ... um ... panda.

    [Edit: Self grammar nazification]
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