EMFH was given a 5 min CD(3 min?) begin cataclysm I believe, and they quickly changed that.
Last edited by Terahertz; 2013-05-10 at 12:06 PM.
Yeah, they bumped it to 3 minutes and people began complaining. Understandably so. At that point, you're almost forced to get a trinket and the racial becomes pointless. As it is, racials are dumb. The Alliance racials aside from EMFH are trash. The Horde racials (aoe stun, aoe silence, Orc and Troll DPS boosters, Orc stun reduction) are far more powerful. It makes more sense, in the name of balance, to get rid of them altogether. Just keep the racials that boost professions and don't have any effect on actual gameplay.
Yay, this thread again. Never fails that only this racial gets brought up and not Will of the Forsaken. Granted WotF doesn't break every CC, it does however give some flexibility with a trinket equipped as well as Forsaken having a second racial that periodically adds extra damage to attacks. Horde racials are primarily offensive and Alliance are primarily defensive. This complaint comes out all the time. Either kill all the racials, make them all defensive/offensive, or just eliminate CC trinkets and make the effect baseline for all players and give Human something else that can benefit in PvP and PvE.
Wholeheartedly agree on racials needing to go. I think part of faction imbalance stems back to Horde racials being offensive DPS increases for PvE.
Anyone else think Jaime Lannister only has the Kingslayer title because he was just too lazy to kill the king on heroic mode?
I think racials are interesting, I think EMFH is a bit OP - less so since some of the changes in trinket design - but I think that the entire racial system needs an overhaul.
lilke others have said - give every race a version of EMFH - that works well in SW:TOR
Rehash all other racials. but keep them simliar and more on par. ike someone else said - a tier system could work well.
I think goblins are a good example of a solid collection of racials, they have a movement racial, and damage racial and then flavour racials - proffs and bartering etc
Night Elves work quite well, shadowmeld and 2% miss chance - very defensive, but pretty solid.
Orcs and Trolls possibly need to be toned down a bit to be more balanced with other races - or alternatively bring everyone else up to match.
Importantly I do think as an RPG, races should be more than just a model change, there needs to be a game play difference between them - it just needs to be balanced around pvp, as largely in pve there isn't a huge difference between races when numbers are that big (unless you're a troll fighiing an animal boss =p)
looks like most people play a human
Personally, I think they should give everyone a trinket style ability (such as in SW:TOR) and give humans something different to compensate (DPS bonus gogo).
Does it really matter what your character looks like anyway? Just play a human if you think it has the advantage. PvP isn't about your obsession over your character anyway. The character you play as is just a mere tool to help you win, why does it even matter what it looks like? That type of mentality is reserved for RP and PvE heroes.
Keep EMFH as is. It's practically the only reason why people pvp on Alliance.
Honestly I think this says more to the effect that Alliance racials are pretty poor in general and not how overpowered EMFH is in PvP. Even the difference between Worgen and Goblin racial packages added in Cataclysm are pretty stark in my opinion with the Goblin racial package being extremely nice and the Worgen being a little lackluster. Even Forsaken got an update providing an offensive random extra damage effect added to their racial package. All the racials need a re-tune or just get rid of them all together.
Anyone else think Jaime Lannister only has the Kingslayer title because he was just too lazy to kill the king on heroic mode?
Yes, because it became completly and utterly pointless. People had to wear an insignia anyway and it shared a 100% cd with it.
A 2% chance is, meh at the very best and Shadowmeld is useless in rated play since it stopped taking you out of combat and you can't interrupt a cast with it anymore.
Blizzard only ever talked about removing perception, which they did. The reason allmost all Alliance play humans if they're interested in PvP is that there is simply no alternative for them. They have exactly ONE viable PvP racial so any class that can be human should be human.
You can't only balance EMFH around "other Alliance racials" you'd have to take ALL racials both Alliance and Horde into comparison and compared to for example Orc with 25% stun reduction and an build in dmg trinket EMFH is far from too good.
The problem is that almost all racials of the Alliance are useless in PvP except for one and pretty much all of them are utterly useless in PvE. There is a reason why nowadays nearly all progress raiding guilds are Horde.
i just loled reading this, so no race should be different in any way expect looks, hahaha
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...40656798330880
I just thought i put that in there.
This was the same case back in vanilla. Mostly everyone chose their main because of how racials scaled in terms power (humans with invis detection, OP wotf, etc).
I'd wish they do away with these ridiculous powerful racials that are OBVIOUSLY more OP than the next. Why wouldn't you want to roll human for raiding, questing, or pvp? You get a free trinket slot no matter what.
Like GC said, people should roll a race because of the lore and because they like the race for its uniqueness and aesthetics, NOT because it can faceroll other players.
By all means, have racials. Just make sure they don't out shine others by a huge factor that makes it nearly a necessity to roll that race in comparison to others.
Last edited by TidesOfBlood; 2013-05-11 at 09:57 AM.
Well if some people are so stupid that they play a race for just a radical who the hell cares? Its people like that that makes this game more boring.
If they change EMfH then they need to nerf thw Undead/Orc racials coz they're just as OP IMO.
Sure, take the only good Alliance racial.