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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Luftmangle View Post
    Probably because they are working on "pet battle spectating", and more scenarios.

    People play(ed) for the overall atmospheric content which includes the lore, the setting and how your character(hero) affects and conquerors it.

    Dungeon crawling, raids and guilds were what drove the content and subscription base.

    With the introduction of the LFR/LFD, you lose the guild/friend/server intimacy and are just a class designation.

    Pet battles, seriously holy fuck, who ever thought that should be part of wow should be fired and sued for stupidity.

    Scenarios, another shitty example of bad game design.

    People at this time see their characters as investments, and when you see a company so stupid as to push pet battles, scenarios, and now pet battle spectating, instead of delivering dungeons, great immersive lore and locations, the investors(players) are no longer investing.

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    If WoW stripped out all of the shit fluff game play and returned to it's roots, providing a story worthy of personal investment, where the player felt immersed into the story, and not distracted with all the lame pop culture references, brawlers guild, pet battles, farmville, and really became a dark and bleak landscape where there was actual danger in the world, people would return.
    lmao, this guy hasn't been reading that deep into wow lore of mists of pandaria. Shado pan mutilates it's prisoners. Heck 5.3 kor'kron has trolls lined up with a firing squad.

    Scenarios pet battles were great additions.
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  2. #142
    The only reason who is in decline(not dying) is because it will turn 10 next year and pretty much the last sub based MMO on the market. The reasons you gave are basicly based on yourselve being lazy.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggo View Post
    There are plenty of threads with the same topic, couldn't you post in one of those?
    Of course not, when subs go down everyone is a game designer and knows exactly how to fix it... but, they aren't willing to submit their resume and portfolio to Blizzard... instead they rush to fan forums and profess to have all the answers.

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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Keristrasza View Post
    Remember Cataclysm? I sure do, I remember the CC, and "Heroic" feel and I also remember it is what caused the massive loss in subs at the time. Blizzard even admitted it. Hence why it is NOT that way in Mists. I hated Cataclysm and it was the expansion I stopped raiding in, and stopped running dungeons. In fact, I never ran dungeons in BC either. Only Classic, Wrath and now Mists.
    The only problem with Cataclysm was they made EVERY heroic a new Shadow Labyrinth. You should have one, maybe two, hard heroics, a few easy ones, and the rest in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    Of course not, when subs go down everyone is a game designer and knows exactly how to fix it... but, they aren't willing to submit their resume and portfolio to Blizzard... instead they rush to fan forums and profess to have all the answers.
    You mean these forums AREN'T the application process?!?!? WTF!? I've been such a fool! T_T
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    The reason WoW is "dying" as the OP says, is because the things we keep asking for (EU/US players) are not always what the Asian players want. Hence the reason they all quit for months at a time and give the illusion of the game slumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schirm View Post
    Happy to you know you'll leave, bud. I can go on my day knowing you'll dip from WoW if it's F2P.
    I cant see Blizzard pissing away a billion dollars a yr of Wow subscription money to go F2P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    You mean these forums AREN'T the application process?!?!? WTF!? I've been such a fool! T_T
    Lol, God man... you made me laugh so hard that someone in the next office over came to see what I was laughing at....Thank you.

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  7. #147
    I think right now the "empty servers" combined with the CRZ "Fake server" crap is going to create a massive snowball effect.

    More people leave, the less raids/groups there are to do, the faster people will leave more.... ect.

    Combine that with NO server community thanks to CRZ, Low-pop realm economies decimated thanks to CRZ, and world immersion feeling decimated by CRZ (Look! Terrokar Forrest looks like Stormwind now! But just more green and dead vultures on the ground!")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    Of course not, when subs go down everyone is a game designer and knows exactly how to fix it... but, they aren't willing to submit their resume and portfolio to Blizzard... instead they rush to fan forums and profess to have all the answers.
    ...so, is this an admission that you work for Blizzard? Since you do give your opinion (quite often) on these boards about the game and all. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    ...so, is this an admission that you work for Blizzard? Since you do give your opinion (quite often) on these boards about the game and all. :P
    Actually, No. wouldn't have time to work for Blizzard inbtween writing all these bail bonds...

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  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by elmowaki View Post
    Are you really that stupid?
    He said they only merged servers in Korea because the government passed a law to force Blizzard to this and that they ruin games for giggles. Does that answer your question?

  10. #150
    I have to disagree with you on the first half of the lore part.

    I mean what did you expect? We killed Deathwing last expansion. Did you want the new expansion to feature Kel'Thuzad all over again and the next expansion after that Illidan? The same argument could be presented in Warcraft III. "Who the fuck are these Night Elfs? All I want is Orc and Humans." I seriously don't get what you're trying to say here.

    What were they supposed to do? Turn off the servers after Cata because there are no more characters from the RTS series? The mogu are new lore.

    All I get from what you wrote is that you don't want new lore because you don't know the characters.
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    It's not dying. It just has less subscribers, because it's old and people did what they wanted and went on sabbatical like they do every expansion.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Whidbey View Post
    It's not dying. It just has less subscribers, because it's old and people did what they wanted and went on sabbatical like they do every expansion.
    If the losses continue at this rate of almost 15% per quarter there will no WOW in little over two years.

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    If the losses continue at this rate of almost 15% per quarter there will no WOW in little over two years.
    That means nothing though. 1 data point =/= trend.

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by yjmark View Post
    That means nothing though. 1 data point =/= trend.
    Whilst WOW is not going to die in two years I think it is safe to say that the problem of sub losses, which has been on going for over two years now, is the trend and as realms become emptier it is likely to accelerate before it stabilises.

  15. #155
    As a Ex wow gamer, I Found content wasn't fast enough for me, however I'll always be back after every expansion.. so I guess it will never fully die.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    If the losses continue at this rate of almost 15% per quarter there will no WOW in little over two years.
    Yeah, except the new expansion will be out next year, and that will cause the subs to rise again.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhamses View Post
    Yeah, except the new expansion will be out next year, and that will cause the subs to rise again.
    It will? And when the next expansion fails to bring back the players, just MOP has, what will the next thing to increase subs? 6.1? When that fails, 6.2?

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    My friends, guildies, and I are still playing the game. I'm pretty sure it's not dying on my end.

    There is a lot more interaction in the game. The world bosses, elites on Isle of Thunder, and now heroic scenarios are a great example of this! I had 15 people grouping with me to kill elites on Isle of Thunder the other day! The health pools were insane!!! Just so you're aware, all 14 that were with me were all pugs. It was a blast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Whilst WOW is not going to die in two years I think it is safe to say that the problem of sub losses, which has been on going for over two years now, is the trend and as realms become emptier it is likely to accelerate before it stabilises.
    I also agree that subs will drop, and then stabilize at some point. Whether or not it will accelerate is to be seen. Since a majority of the sub losses were in the far east, it might start stabilizing sooner rather than later. Or it might not. /shrug

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    only thing i can agree on is the empty servers. rest is just opinions. so no. this is no reasons why wow is "dying", and for a game to be "dying" they need to lose more money per month than gaining. wich i doubt they wont until hitting the 3m marker
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