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  1. #221
    They won't do an entire expansion on the ocean, especially not after Vashjr and the amount of hate that place got.

  2. #222
    I suppose I have to come in yet again and say the majority of the sub losses were in China. So whatever the reason, its irrelivent to the rest of us.

    Likely the reason they all quit is due to how they pay for WoW - essentially paying per minute. A bunch of Free To Play games popped up all across Southeast Asia, and they all switched to that instead. Simple explaination.

    It doesn't mean MoP 'failed', or casuals are leaving, or hardcores are leaving. It means the Chinese market changed.

    THAT'S IT.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    I suppose I have to come in yet again and say the majority of the sub losses were in China. So whatever the reason, its irrelivent to the rest of us.

    Likely the reason they all quit is due to how they pay for WoW - essentially paying per minute. A bunch of Free To Play games popped up all across Southeast Asia, and they all switched to that instead. Simple explaination.

    It doesn't mean MoP 'failed', or casuals are leaving, or hardcores are leaving. It means the Chinese market changed.

    THAT'S IT.
    I concur, I am far more willing to accept Blizzards normally rational explanation, than some of the more outlandish conspiracy theories thrown about with abandon.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Risin View Post
    What do you think?
    Well, the next expansion will easily be more fun than MoP because MoP is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. Yes, I even prefer Cataclysm to MoP.

    I wouldn't expect subscriptions to go back to 10 million or higher though, that's a bit too much. Subscriptions will continue to drop for a while.

  5. #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    Well, the next expansion will easily be more fun than MoP because MoP is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. Yes, I even prefer Cataclysm to MoP.
    You and me both brother. You and me both. If you said that at launch though ohhh the fanboys drowned you out so much. Now it should be plainly obvious that it is in fact total and utter crap.
    The hammer comes down:
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

  6. #226
    This whole MoP "detour" has been complete garbage. Once again they create brilliant ideas with hilariously bad execution. LFR being able to obtain legendaries drops is just the beginning of the end. No guild cauldrons, no 300 stat feasts, having to grind pointless charms every week because it's required in guilds that are even remotely decent at this game, and scenarios are waste of design. They didn't give us more content, they gave the artificial feeling of actually having content with gated dailies, pet battles, and useless scenarios no one even does.

    I predict Garrosh will have tentacles coming out of him most likely because if anyone ever goes mad it isn't because they are actually a villian. It's usually because of blizzard tentacle fetish porn with the old gods.
    Last edited by pmgbro; 2013-05-12 at 09:45 PM.

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisho View Post
    Wow, that's some anger you got there. Rather misplaced too, considering the concept of space travel and other worlds has been solidly established since Warcraft 2. How would it be 'raping' (and let's try to avoid using that word, please) Warcraft if he used a concept that has been in the franchise for years? Decades, even.
    Agreed. I pretty much auto-file people who use that word to describe having issues with or accomplish something under 'unthinkably stupid dumbass.'

    Spend some time in prison and have a guy twice your size decide you're his new girlfriend, and then let me know if that's the word that comes to mind when you're mad at a video game.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert West View Post
    We have south seas, ocean and emerald dream. All come with their own, well-made lore.
    Not a whole expansion of spacegoats and other abominations of lore.
    Just because it doesn't go letter to letter with ancient lore of the 90s, it doesn't mean its an abomination of lore. So please, be open-minded and do not criticize anything that is not 100% compatible to traditional lore.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    You and me both brother. You and me both. If you said that at launch though ohhh the fanboys drowned you out so much. Now it should be plainly obvious that it is in fact total and utter crap.
    Or perhaps what's obvious is that you have your opinion and other people have theirs. I love MoP: I don't categorize people who dislike the expansion as retards/idiots/whatever, so show a little maturity and don't categorize people who enjoy it as anything but people who enjoy it. Thank you.

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    you are feeling very sleepy..it would be a shame if anything started playing up in the emerald dream again..especially with it's most senior guardian now severely weakened :P

  11. #231
    It will be the same as every other expansion to date...

    Pre release: Best thing ever

    During: Worst move Blizzard ever made

    Next expansion: The previous expansion was the best thing ever

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Trickname View Post
    Next expansion: The previous expansion was the best thing ever
    Sadly that is something mop and cataclysm will never have a title of. Best thing ever.

    Even after multiple more expansion. They might not always rank as bad as they do now since other expansion could suck even more.

  13. #233
    I just wanna point something out for the people going ''lalala all sub drops were in Asia lalala doesn't affect me lalala'' well..for one they only said most sub drops were in Asia, that could be 51% of the sub drops and for two, the great majority of the subs are in Asia so it's only logic that most of the subs lost came from there.

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    I suppose I have to come in yet again and say the majority of the sub losses were in China. So whatever the reason, its irrelivent to the rest of us.

    Likely the reason they all quit is due to how they pay for WoW - essentially paying per minute. A bunch of Free To Play games popped up all across Southeast Asia, and they all switched to that instead. Simple explaination.

    It doesn't mean MoP 'failed', or casuals are leaving, or hardcores are leaving. It means the Chinese market changed.

    THAT'S IT.
    The mayority of subs ARE in China, so if you loss subs, its vfery likely the mayority will be from there.

    If a cataclysm wipes 1/4 of the worlds population in a uniform distribution of life losses, which country do you think woulod lose more people? China.

    Also, mayority =/= all. NA and EU lost subs too.

    MoP is failing hard, harder than Cataclysm.

    Dailies, no more dungeons, making the game for hardcores with huge grind, stupidly hard raids, etc, all thing that made several of my friends (not from China) quit.
    Last edited by Crashdummy; 2013-05-13 at 11:35 AM.

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