He did 421k damage in one second, on a frozen target thats a leather healer,
to be fair, any decent healer will make that up in seconds once the freeze is over, if were talking about sub standard pvp gear from last season, people will be sitting on 500k plus,
And one of the you tube comments nails it, its not like mages are the only ones with this "1 shot macro" most have it at one point or another
Additionally, if your talking in a BG point of view, then 9 times out of 10 its a farmer thats doing it, not someone concentrating purley on the objective of the bg, if its in arena, people are expecting it and have counters ready, pvp trinkets break freeze, humans every man for himself, dks AMS, hunters deterrence etc etc
It won't be fine till we stop having gear with stats in the thousands
It's nothing surprising becouse mage got all setup he needed and then nuked "trinketless target", also he's completly reforged to mastery and using mage armor so big numbers against frozen target is a given. Thing is that your average mage don't need this wholle setup to blow someone in deep - just poped incanters ward, orb/deep and meanwhille nether tempest + orb ticks, 2 FoF icelance and frostfire bolt will do the job and if smth goes wrong with crits you'll come out of deep into blanket silence to meet alter timed 2d row of instant procs. That's why mage teams are absurd - you need to shut down mage but when there's SP or rogue or elem shaman that all have high solo potential it's double as hard. Still doable though, just play with hunter yourself)
"And the person will die from this burst, IF they don't use any defensive cooldowns." Oh, so it's something weird when a person needs to pop defensives when a mage gets all procs available and popping all cooldowns. Bad mage bad video.
It's granted you'll die to any burst without using cooldowns, you can't be that dense.
The controversial aspect of this burst is that unless you're looking for it hard you're gonna get crushed, sicne you don't take any damage until the bomb, frostbolt, icelance shatter explodes... which is what I think he really meant.
Hell, even looking for it... use cds... 300, 200k damage in 1 sec from one player -- Dispell frostbomb...still get ice lances for 100k.
So quoting him on that slipoff doesn't change the fact that it's a tool ready available for geared frost mages, and it has to be stopped somehow.
Mages and rogues are a little bit overpowered. I don't think it's terrible to say so as we all know that, it's not like they are that terribly overpowered over the rest! But they certainly are a bit.
That shouldn't happen with any class because that's exactly what kills "balance".
Unbalance should come from good player combos (if it should ever come at all), not from single classes / specs.
Are we having a discussion with this video as a basis?
It's a setup! They're meant to be visually impacting and show what could potentially happen if the stars align under the perfect circumstances. This isn't actual pvp y'know.
Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler
I have seen worse.
In vanilla as a rank 14 arms warrior + severance I would 2-3 shot anything apart from geared tank specs.
Charge into a big mob -> whirlwind (crits the average geared player for 50% of their hp) -> intimidating shout -> Ms w sweeping strikes on a healer/ higher geared player-> new whirlwind -> how to solo 10 players.
Or better still ret paladins in early wrath -> divine storm for 16-18k -> 60-70% of an average player's hp.
It isn't even hard to get everything to proc at the start of an arena and Deep Freeze the healer and eat his face, almost alone. He did that damage without Mastery buff, and he did it without stats buff. That's dumb. There is no defense for globalling someone, at all.
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