Spring 2013 Poll: Democratic Presidential Candidate for 2016

[Elegiac]

Which plan do you guys want? Under Warren, college costs $75,000 but your payments are low. Under those republican governors, your entire program costs $10,000. I think the overwhelming majority would support the republicans vision here.

The republicans are fighting for YOU.

Again, bullshit. When the program costs 10,000 per student it costs the college revenue with which to educate its students, especially in light of those governors who have been cutting state subsidies towards public universities.

[Sky High]

Social and Fiscal policy for one.

yea, I think I feel the same way towards...whatever you want to call yourself. squarzies?

[Sky High]

http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/...un_Control.htm

Warren and Kucinich seem like honest and respectable people, but civil liberties are a make-or-break issue for me.

of course, weather she thinks you should have a gun or not is infringing on your civil liberties....why did I except anything else.....

[Nakura Chambers]

Nothing in there violates the 2nd amendment.

-snip- Sorry, that was unnecessarily mean. Please see below, where I'll actually respond to your question.

[Nadev]

yea, I think I feel the same way towards...whatever you want to call yourself. squarzies?

I'm too tired to type out my political bent/philosophy (I think it's complicated(, so yes, squarzies!

Joe Biden

Wait, Ted Cruz is a no-go, but the one-man circus isn't?

[Spectral]

Again, bullshit. When the program costs 10,000 per student it costs the college revenue with which to educate its students, especially in light of those governors who have been cutting state subsidies towards public universities.

To me, it's pretty indicative of what these governors think of education - it's not about teaching people to them, it's just about getting a piece of paper as cheap as possible. I don't think they comprehend education as something that's intrinsically valuable at all.

[Payday]

I think 3 republican governors are doing more to help students and their debt crisis than Warren:

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2...tion-platforms

Republican governors Rick Scott (FL), Rick Perry (TX) and Scott Walker (WI)

Rick Perry helping students? Texas Board of Education? A state that discourages critical thinking?

[Wells]

To me, it's pretty indicative of what these governors think of education - it's not about teaching people to them, it's just about getting a piece of paper as cheap as possible. I don't think they comprehend education as something that's intrinsically valuable at all.

I seriously doubt they gave a shit either way. They just stated something that sounds good to people who don't want to or are unable to actually think.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Social and Fiscal policy for one.

I can understand being against fiscal progressivism, but I have a hard time understanding people that are against social progressivism.

Do people just not like letting others of differing lifestyles live the way they want to live? As long as it is not hurting anyone else, why the fear of change?

[Elegiac]

To me, it's pretty indicative of what these governors think of education - it's not about teaching people to them, it's just about getting a piece of paper as cheap as possible. I don't think they comprehend education as something that's intrinsically valuable at all.

Honestly what Warren proposed was a step in the right direction especially given the hostile anti-education environment persisting in government at the moment.

[Wells]

Rick Perry helping students? Texas Board of Education? A state that discourages critical thinking?

New slogan

Texas: Fighting for You by Refusing Federal Medicaid Money.

[Elegiac]

I seriously doubt they gave a shit either way. They just stated something that sounds good to people who don't want to or are unable to actually think.

I.e. the ideal GOP voter.

[GreatOak]

I'm too tired to type out my political bent/philosophy (I think it's complicated(, so yes, squarzies!



Wait, Ted Cruz is a no-go, but the one-man circus isn't?

Biden vs Cruz would be funny. A senile old man vs. McCarthy's bastard child.

[Nakura Chambers]

of course, weather she thinks you should have a gun or not is infringing on your civil liberties....why did I except anything else.....

If she personally disliked guns, but refused to let that affect her political decisions, then it would be acceptable. However, she co-sponsored a bill to ban standard capacity magazines and she supported Feinstein's Federal Assault Weapons Ban. In addition, she said that she supports enacting stricter gun control. She didn't say "I don't like guns, but I respect your fundamental constitutional right to own one," she said "[I support] Further restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms."

[Nadev]

I can understand being against fiscal progressivism, but I have a hard time understanding people that are against social progressivism.

Do people just not like letting others of differing lifestyles live the way they want to live? As long as it is not hurting anyone else, why the fear of change?

Guess I should have been more specific. Not gay marriage (all for it), drugs (again, fuck up your own life the way you want) and abortion (I think it should be entirely legalized; I think God is the only one who can judge whether or not you should have killed your future child). Try immigration.

[GreatOak]

I can understand being against fiscal progressivism, but I have a hard time understanding people that are against social progressivism.

Do people just not like letting others of differing lifestyles live the way they want to live? As long as it is not hurting anyone else, why the fear of change?

It's not that hard to understand. They just turn the dial of authoritarianism a bit further. Once you think coercion is moral, it's not hard to justify using it to enforce your own worldview onto others, especially when dealing with social issues. I also prefer the term "social-liberalism" better than "social-progressivism".

[Nakura Chambers]

Nothing about Hilary tells me should would make a good president, to be honest.

Likewise. I can respect people who hold different views than me, but to me Hillary just seems more of the same. She seems like a corrupt, corporatist, statist quo talking head. She just doesn't seem like the real deal, she's just another beltway insider.

[Sky High]

If she personally disliked guns, but refused to let that affect her political decisions, then it would be acceptable. However, she co-sponsored a bill to ban standard capacity magazines and she supported Feinstein's Federal Assault Weapons Ban. In addition, she said that she supports enacting stricter gun control. She didn't say "I don't like guns, but I respect your fundamental constitutional right to own one," she said "[I support] Further restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms."

fine, we get why you hate her. woopdie do even if I gave as big a shit about gun rights as you do I'd still favor her over any other candidate out there. from both parties.

[GreatOak]

fine, we get why you hate her. woopdie do even if I gave as big a shit about gun rights as you do I'd still favor her over any other candidate out there. from both parties.

As do I, even if I think she's not strong on defending the second amendment and has stupid positions on guns she's still better than anyone else. The bar isn't very high though.
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[Nakura Chambers]

Nothing in there violates the 2nd amendment.

The Supreme Court disagrees. She co-sponsored a bill to ban standard capacity magazines and she supported Feinstein's gun ban.