View Poll Results: ave you quit normal mode raiding for LFR?

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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Enosh View Post
    so people should give up doing LFR for the chance of the once under a blue moon successful pug...
    I PuG on a nearly weekly basis and clear the instances I do most often than not. I even sometimes progressed further into ToT on my PuG alt than on my main before everything went on farm.

  2. #102
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    Yes, I prefer LFR a lot more than Normal... much less stress and hassle and more fun for me since I never really cared for difficulty in games(with a few exceptions) especially when that difficulty can't be overcome by me alone and is depending on other people... I don't mind difficult as hell single player games because if I die in those it means I just failed and I should try again... in wow it's usually bcoz some random I never met keeps failing and thus it's out of my hands...

    Also much less hassle than always needing to find a decent guild to raid with and grow in rank only to realize they don't really give a shit about me when it's time to give loot since they usually give loot to ppl that have been with the guild longer or they know eachother irl...

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    No, LFR actually had the effect Blizzard intended for me in that it brought me back.

    I had actually unsubbed from WoW because I didn't have the time to reliably raid normals/heroics anymore due to real life. When I heard they were bringing in LFR I resubbed and played for another 2 months but got dismayed with all the ninjas in LFR DS and unsubbed again. I don't mind carrying a LFR(I find it fun actually), but when people who don't do anything can steal from people who do, the system is screwed.

    Resubbed for MoP and really enjoy the new LFR system, it suits me perfectly. I guess all I'm saying is if it wasn't for LFR I would not even be playing and seeing content.
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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpionss View Post
    Yes, I prefer LFR a lot more than Normal... much less stress and hassle and more fun for me since I never really cared for difficulty in games(with a few exceptions) especially when that difficulty can't be overcome by me alone and is depending on other people... I don't mind difficult as hell single player games because if I die in those it means I just failed and I should try again... in wow it's usually bcoz some random I never met keeps failing and thus it's out of my hands...

    Also much less hassle than always needing to find a decent guild to raid with and grow in rank only to realize they don't really give a shit about me when it's time to give loot since they usually give loot to ppl that have been with the guild longer or they know eachother irl...
    Sorry to say, but you've only been in shit guilds. The fact you seem to equate loot with how much they care about you might explain why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    No, LFR actually had the effect Blizzard intended for me in that it brought me back.

    I had actually unsubbed from WoW because I didn't have the time to reliably raid normals/heroics anymore due to real life. When I heard they were bringing in LFR I resubbed and played for another 2 months but got dismayed with all the ninjas in LFR DS and unsubbed again. I don't mind carrying a LFR(I find it fun actually), but when people who don't do anything can steal from people who do, the system is screwed.

    Resubbed for MoP and really enjoy the new LFR system, it suits me perfectly. I guess all I'm saying is if it wasn't for LFR I would not even be playing and seeing content.
    also this, if they implement the loot system that is in LFR in normals/heroics I may give those a chance again... but untill then I will not bother with dkp or whatever loot systems guilds use nowadays ...

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    Yes. I am a casual gamer, I don't like having schedules for playing a game, I like raiding but I really don't like feeling that ''oh look it is 19.30, I better log on to a game because I have to raid''. Pugs are non existent on my server so I was only very happy to go to a social rank in my guild and do lfr. Am enjoying the game a lot now.

  7. #107
    Well, kind of...

    I have quit real life raiding because I don't really have the time for it. If I really wanted to raid, I could make time, but I can use LFR to satiate my urges. So, I wouldn't say LFR alone has made me stop normal raiding, but it's certainly one of the factors.

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    No.

    Actually, not playing anymore at all but I cannot stand LFR, and Normal mode raiding was just about the only aspect of the game I still enjoyed.

    Never been gung-ho about heroic mode . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahad View Post
    Sorry to say, but you've only been in shit guilds. The fact you seem to equate loot with how much they care about you might explain why.

    I have been in shit guilds, I know that... because like I said I never really cared about clearing the content in the first month or progressing through heroic(although I did do that in ICC coz lich king bro) also I never really saw a point in filling endless amounts of applications instead of actually playing the game. There are many things I enjoy in wow, having to deal with shitty ppl who only care about progressing asap through raids is not one of them. And it's not just about loot ... most of the guilds i've been in have been a bore fest... no interaction between players at all except during raids and officers... I was in the same guild the entirety of Firelands and DS and do you know how many Heroics I ran with guildies? None because whenever I asked if any1 wanted to go for some I always got no response or sorry going with officers... so yeah nowdays the only reasons I'm in a guild is for the guild perks.

    And also no, I am not a bad player really I am mediocre at worst... but as a hunter I've always been top 3 dps in all guilds I was even when my gear was way below other players...(like in cata when I started a month after the release, I was in full blues maybe 1-2 epics, and every1 in the guild was at least half epics, and I still came in top 5 on most fights in 25 man... and I've usually been top dps in pretty much every raid I've been into as long as gear gap wasn't astronomic)
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  10. #110
    While the poll is fairly unbiased, asking a very direct question and just having "Yes/No" as the options, I feel the poll, sampling size bias aside, isn't going to really give a tremendous amount of information.

    Options should be more like:
    - Raided normals/heroic before LFR, now only do LFR.
    - Raided normals/heroic before LFR, now do both.
    - Raided normals/heroic before LFR, still only do normals/heroic.
    - Didn't raid at all before LFR, now do LFR.
    - Didn't raid at all before LFR, still don't raid or LFR.

    There may be some other scenarios I am overlooking, but that should cover the major groups of players.

  11. #111
    I did not quit normal mode as much as I was effectively forced out of it and into LFR with the heavy drop of the late night PuG scene that suited my available play times so well before the introduction of LFR. Now I do not even do LFR and have stopped playing WoW as it was not about the gear or "seeing the content". It was about doing group based holy-trinity content that was engaging for myself and LFR is just lackluster mixed with frustration. I feel more like a god or a baby stomping on their toys than I do as a hero as the game describe we the players are in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Yet on the very same token, these "casuals" who dont "have the time" for a regular raiding schedule will do raid finder on all their alts. A full ToT raid finder takes roughly 4 hours. And that is without wiping on Lei shen. Multiply that by the number of alts they have, along with all the profession stuff they do, and they easily spend more time playing this game than working hours in a week.

    Just sayin'
    Not everyone that runs LFR doesn't run normals or heroics because they don't have time, some times its about not having the same time schedule as raiding guilds, due to working odd shifts or being on call.

    Just Sayin'

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgoose View Post
    While the poll is fairly unbiased, asking a very direct question and just having "Yes/No" as the options, I feel the poll, sampling size bias aside, isn't going to really give a tremendous amount of information.

    Options should be more like:
    - Raided normals/heroic before LFR, now only do LFR.
    - Raided normals/heroic before LFR, now do both.
    - Raided normals/heroic before LFR, still only do normals/heroic.
    - Didn't raid at all before LFR, now do LFR.
    - Didn't raid at all before LFR, still don't raid or LFR.

    There may be some other scenarios I am overlooking, but that should cover the major groups of players.
    And still at least one missing:
    - Raided normals/heroic before LFR, not touching either with a 10-foot pole now, as normals are full with retarded twitch checks and lfr is full with retarded "people".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Yet on the very same token, these "casuals" who dont "have the time" for a regular raiding schedule will do raid finder on all their alts. A full ToT raid finder takes roughly 4 hours. And that is without wiping on Lei shen. Multiply that by the number of alts they have, along with all the profession stuff they do, and they easily spend more time playing this game than working hours in a week.

    Just sayin'
    If you take 4h to do LFR something is really wrong... And it is still 4h for the WHOLE WEEK. you can raid 40 minutes here, 40 minutes there. Without planning your game time. Your wife came earlier tonight and you want to go out for some dinner ? Nice, LFR won't be sad because they can't raid without you.
    You have some free time thursday afternoon for whatever reason ? Nice, you can do 1-2 LFR wings. You are asked something during raid ? Easy, drop LFR someone will take your place.

    It is not only about playing less, it is about playing when you want and/or when you can.

    Raiding for 3-5 nights per week was easy when I was 20. I'm now nearly 30, still enjoying wow, but without the time to said schedules.

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    I stopped raiding normal's in like 4.0, so kinda?
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  16. #116
    I quit raiding because I couldn't keep up the schedule, I would have quit regardless of LFR or not. RL > Wow.

    I do however do LFR when I can. Without LFR I still wouldn't be raiding normals or heroics anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Yet on the very same token, these "casuals" who dont "have the time" for a regular raiding schedule will do raid finder on all their alts. A full ToT raid finder takes roughly 4 hours. And that is without wiping on Lei shen. Multiply that by the number of alts they have, along with all the profession stuff they do, and they easily spend more time playing this game than working hours in a week.

    Just sayin'
    And so? if someone wants to spend 20hrs a week dragging 5 alts thru LFR that is their right. Maybe, just maybe they are more interested in those 5 alts than they are in dealing with normal raiding? And who exactly is there that is entitled to tell them how they can or should play the game?

    Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glitch View Post
    Not everyone that runs LFR doesn't run normals or heroics because they don't have time, some times its about not having the same time schedule as raiding guilds, due to working odd shifts or being on call. '
    there are always guilds that can meet someones schedule

    Hell on my realm, there are even late night raiding guilds for people who have no time during the day
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    I would rather unsub than do strictly LFR.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    there are always guilds that can meet someones schedule

    Hell on my realm, there are even late night raiding guilds for people who have no time during the day
    Raiding isn't first place on everyone's priority list.

    Many people like playing with guilds that can't meet their schedule though and aren't interested in guild hopping around just for raids. My guild celebrated it's 8th birthday this week, I love playing there and love the people in the guild. I'd rather not raid at all than not play with those people. In fact I'd not play at all if it wasn't for those people.

    Besides which organised raiding requires some sort of schedule always, even if it's just a commitment of a few hours a week. Not everyone can commit to any sort of schedule. No matter what commitment I make I could have a family or work thing come up and I would ditch the group for that. Do you really want someone like that in your raid groups? I don't know anyone who'd want someone like that tbh.

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