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    HC Horridon WITHOUT holy pala or monk

    Hi guys,

    As the title says. Has anyone done this without the 2 classes above. We only have a healing team of druid, shammie and disc priest. On at least 2 of the doors, we only have one person able to dispel, this makes it VERY difficult for us (maybe we suck). We can get to the 4th door and even past it, but never with a whole raid team alive.

    Is this fight impossible without a pala or monk healing (for their dispels)?


    Many thanks.
    Last edited by hardtofin; 2013-05-20 at 12:27 PM.

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    While our 1st kill was disc - monk - Rshaman we always duo heal disc-Rshaman the fight since our monk doesn't need any item from it anymore.
    In which door you're struggling at? The 1st door shouldn't be a problem since all of them can dispel magic + mass dispel, the 2nd door shounldn't be needing any dispell, just make sure to kill the 1st priest b4 the effusion spawn and set up an interrupt rotation for the other 2 priests, your goal is to pass the 2nd door Without any posion debuff going / 1 stack at most.
    As for the 3rd door, it also depends on which comp you're running with, not only healers, we've our monk and pala tank helping on dispels , maybe i misunderstood but you said you're raid doesn't have any monk or pala HEALERS, or did you mean you haven't pala/monk at all? If that's the case you probably want to keep big adds up a lil' longer while burning the small ones asap (they can be snared /stunned and so on so you should rly be doing that anytime you can, also, if you have a pala on you're raid spot either retri or prot you can have your resto drood symbio him to get disease cleanse.
    As for last door, you have 2 healers able to clean curses , so you just need 1 more dispell from your group, any kind of shammy /druid /mage can do that and you only need 3 in total to get rid of the debuffs (prio dispells on tanks, that curse seems to hurt them alot more than the others).

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    last 2 gates mobs use Desise and Curse
    Curse can be dispeled by all Druids Mages Shamans no mater what spec they are
    Desises can be dispeled by Paladins Monks Priest no mater what spe they are

    you said you got Priest shaman Druid heals so i see no problem


    DPS and Tanks (palas,monks,druids,shamans mages) can dispel too not only DPS and say it heal fail

    and BTW is 2 heal fight 3 heal is pointles in my opinion and only make is harder

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    Make DPS and tank (if you have a prot paladin) help dispelling targets with high stacks. Poison gate requires no dispelling really, if your interrupts are good, you should never get more than 1-2 stacks.

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    No it is very doable without a Hpala or a healing Monk. especially this fight is a lot easier with a disc priest. On door 3 you can CC the small adds, so they dont hit their random target, leaving just a small number of debuffs in your raid. the worst debuff is the debuff at door 4. if you only have one person in the raid who can dispell curses your raidmembers should pay a lot of attention on this one.
    however, some dd can dispel too (like mage, boomkins, shadows, protpalas and so on).

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    Sorry, to be clear. We have NO pala or monk, of any spec in the raid at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtofin View Post
    Hi guys,

    As the title says. Has anyone done this without the 2 classes above. We only have a healing team of druid, shammie and disc priest. On at least 2 of the doors, we only have one person able to dispel, this makes it VERY difficult for us (maybe we suck). We can get to the 4th door and even past it, but never with a whole raid team alive.

    Is this fight impossible without a pala or monk healing (for their dispels)?


    Many thanks.
    We did it with disc and resto druid last week first pull.

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    The druid can symbiosis any paladin and get cleanse.

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    We killed it without a monk or pally in the raid

    I cant link the log (not enough posts) but you can search it on world of logs

    EU English>Ravencrest>Endevour and then 1st of may

    also on youtube you can find it by Endeavour Horridon hc. vid from our resto druid pov.

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    Thanks for all this info guys, I will let you know how we get on.

    Thanks once again.

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    Kill things faster is the best solution. Poison door is MUCH easier if you kill the first Priest before he casts his poison pool/Venomous Priest.

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    We have generally used disc-monk to heal this encounter, but with a Prot pally and 2 boomkins in the raid there were many times revival was not needed on the 2nd gate. It's extremely possible to do it without a monk, depending on the rest of your group make up and how good your DPS is at killing the priests/effusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubuntu View Post
    Desises can be dispeled by Paladins Monks Priest no mater what spe they are
    Are you sure this is correct? I was sure that shadow priests couldn't dispel disease?

    Can anyone link anything saying otherwise please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtofin View Post
    Are you sure this is correct? I was sure that shadow priests couldn't dispel disease?

    Can anyone link anything saying otherwise please?
    They can't

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    time your bloodlust on the nastiest door for your comp, might also help. you can get through the wargod without it if dps is good.
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    Lust on the door that your available dispell combo is the worst at handling. We have one shaman for decursing so we lust on the fourth door once all the bears are on the ground.

    Also make sure that you are using ALL your class dispells. The only class specs that are locked out of using their class dispell is a Guardian and Feral druid. Any other tank, dps, or healer can use their class dispell for whatever it clovers poison, disease, or curse.
    Last edited by Orion Antares; 2013-05-20 at 09:10 PM.

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    PS: All Paladins can dispell 2nd and 3rd door (I've always done it), not only Holydins.


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    we do it with shaman and druid... its very do-able

    have any palas/monks/druids help out with extra dispels if needed

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    What is your raid comp? Seems odd that you would have a class balance with zero dispels in the dps/tank roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionAntares View Post
    Also make sure that you are using ALL your class dispells. The only class specs that are locked out of using their class dispell is a Guardian and Feral druid. Any other tank, dps, or healer can use their class dispell for whatever it clovers poison, disease, or curse.
    No issues for ferals popping out of form to dispel if really needed. Better with a dispel and losing a bit of damage vs. not getting a kill due to that one missing dispel..

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