Last edited by Anarch the Subduer; 2013-05-17 at 11:47 AM.
I don't see why people deem subscription numbers as irrelevant; they're an important and useful gauge of how attractive both the content is, and Blizzard's measures of keeping people playing. With that in mind, MoP has been performing surprisingly poorly over all; it has had the usual, new expansion spike after the subscription losses seen in Cataclysm, yet now we're on the slippery slope once more.
Truthfully i'm not sure why, but i'd put it down to two things;
1) Blizzard thinking that dailies = exciting/engaging/legitimate content
2) Patches having less content than things would seem
This excludes external factors such as competition.
"If I owned a company, my employees would love me. They’d have huge pictures of me up the walls and in their home, like Lenin." - George Costanza
Non gaap: 228 million dollars in one quater.
So with 3 million "only" you'll fall short.
Now ADD the fact that several countries don't pay 15 dollars for a sub (eastern EU)
AND A SUB CARD is sold retail with only 50% going to Blizzard,
You see that 8.3 million world wide subs is quite accurate to justity the amounts.
As always has been btw. I always won these discussions.
Easy really since Blizzard has open books for their stockholders and I am one of them.
Last edited by BenBos; 2013-05-17 at 11:51 AM.
Protip: If you have to announce your "victory", all you won was a cheap gold star from the local dollar mart.
Last edited by A Challenger!; 2013-05-17 at 11:55 AM.
Hell it even states it includes box sales and other services as you have correctly pointed to Osmeric. Then they even state it includes CoD in it as well. BenBos blinkered much?"1. Revenue from online subscriptions consists of revenue from all World of Warcraft products, including subscriptions, boxed products, expansion packs, liscensing royalties, and value-added services. It also includes revenue from Call of Duty Elite memberships."
Why would you like to know what my prediction will be Jaylock ?
Likely another 500-750k dropped.
Whatever raid boss I'm currently stuck on will be the reason that all those folks left too though, you can be certain.
Benevolence is a luxury for the strong - Wrathion
No matter how much Blizzard keeps repeating it, ToT is not as good as Ulduar and ICC and Lei Shen is not as good as Yogg, LK or Ragnaros.
Subs will go down, but not entirely, not even mainly, because of ToT. Blizzard keeps not solving their big problem, which is the lack of dungeons and the huge grind they are asking to do something in the game.
Heroic scenarios will fail as much as scenarios did, because people are not looking for a challenging version of an scenario and Blizzard keeps completely out of touch with what the players want.
If Blizzard is lucky, this expansion will end with 7 millon subs and will be remembered as the biggest failure in WoW's history.
But is more likely that the expansion will end in the 6 millon range.
Last edited by Crashdummy; 2013-05-17 at 12:40 PM.
Also the elite service CoD stopped being a paid service at the end of 2012
And no atvi is just a small part of our portfolio. Most of it consists of packages managed by our bank. So you are way off thinking this is just a hobby of mine.
The 275 million gaap/228 million non gaap for just this quarter shows Blzzard carries these 8.3 million subs, whether haters like that or not.
Last edited by BenBos; 2013-05-17 at 12:47 PM.
I think lower but they will rise in Q3 or later with SoO coming out.
Al this interviews from friends working in fan sites they are doing to try to make people think ToT is so good and trying to create expectations on the Barrens escalation thing (which is just lame that this is what they are using to try to keep people on) shows that they are really worried.