Seriously, let me break this down for you:
Sept 25th - MoP release
Sept 30th - Q3 officially ends
Oct 7th - Blizz press release - Subs back up to 10 mil -
Nov 6th - Q3 shareholder announcement - re-states that subs are 10 mil.
I can't make that ANY simpler for you...
The voracity of your language, coupled with that you waited 24 hours to respond, and the DESPERATE attempt to completely re-write your point betrays how wrong you know you are.
And, as somebody else provided a link above, another press release was put out BEFORE Cataclysm's release of the subscription milestone of 12 million, and that was on October 7th - one month BEFORE that quarterly report and TWO months before Cataclysm.
Again, let me break this down for you:
Sept 30th, 2010 - Q3 officially ends
Oct 7, 2010 - Blizz press release of up to 12 million
Nov, 2010 - Q3 Shareholder report - re-stating 12 million
Dec 7, 2010 - Cataclysm release date.
Dude... it's 100% proof against what you said. You saying it's "Wrong" doesn't make it wrong... It's right there in PURE BLIZZARD PUBLISHED BLUE WORDS!!!
To answer your line "Good god, nobody can be this dense" - please look into a mirror. It's right there in BLIZZARD'S OWN WORDS - and you're saying "No, it's not". How is that not dense?
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I see a lot of fanboys asking "why is this relevant". They are just trying to be blind in face of the entire situation
First of, less subscriptions means less income, which can result in less financial power in order to keep blizzard developing content.
Second, despite the oficial excuse that the subs are dropping because the game is old (just like they said in Q1 that the subs dropped because of diablo, yeah...), the subs drops only refflect the bad quality of the game right now. Countless threads reminding of big problems, such as Daily burnout, gating, realm population issues, etc, and blizzard just remains iddle, giving excuses instead of solutions.
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Blizzard themselves said the sub numbers were going to sink again.
At least in the past they tried to make up an excuse and look forward to the next quarter, this time they didn't even bother.
It means another big drop is going to happen (because they already see it in their data)
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or, as usually happens, you just launch insults at anyone whose viewpoints disagrees with you, without adding to the discussion at all.
are you related to that woman from the recent Kitchen Nightmares show by any chance?
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Over the last 10 years, Blizzard has taken over $10bn from MMO players. Take a look around your game...do you see $10bn worth of content available to you? Do you see even a tiny fraction of that in relevant content? Now ask me again why I dislike what Blizzard has done to the MMO industry.
Oh yeah the release of "Star Craft II - Heart of the Swarm" surely didn't bring in any profits at all so it must all be from WoW.The fact that Blizzard profits are up proves loss of Asian subscriptions didn't hurt the bottom line. I mean you haters love to talk about how Asians players pay pennies on the dollar.
Subscription revenue is DOWN.
Net profit (Including game sales) are UP.
And yes, since Asians pay far less than Europeans / Americans, them leaving doesn't hurt Blizzards finances as much as if they were "western players".
Still such a big sub dip is bad PR, as you can clearly see all over this and the battle.net forums.
I have no agenda. If I had one, it would be to strengthen WoW any way I can, because I still love the game.It sucks when your own words and agenda come back to haunt you doesn't it?
Zero as in nada, noight, null, nill, ...
People are STILL not awake yet. As of June 2013 there will be 2 massive subscription based games: WoW and Eve ...all the rest is hanging on life support ... Subscription wise.
THAT's the NEW reality.
Blizzard/ACTIVISION profits... not just "Blizzard" profits.The fact that Blizzard profits are up proves loss of Asian subscriptions didn't hurt the bottom line. I mean you haters love to talk about how Asians players pay pennies on the dollar.
Activision does have QUITE a few more popular things that brings in more money than just WoW - such as Skylanders.
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Benbos is going to chase that sub model all the way down - he'll be swirling around the drain yelling "It's better because it has suuuuubs!!!"
Did you think we had forgotten? Did you think we had forgiven?
There is something that I don't understand. People say that the losses from china are trivial, since the subscription price is lower. I'm no expert in finnances, but as a Taxation lawyer, I'm wondering that, yes, the prices might be lower, but the cost to keep the game running (taxes and other fees) are also lower than in america, making, imho, wow very profitable in china, as much at it is in america.
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To everyone, I think WoW subs will go up like crazy in next expansion.
Hear me out first:
What i think, is that WoW is losing subs in china because it lost it uniqueness since MoP.
Gameplay is fine its still the same but, in China WoW was different it wasn't like the rest of these chinese MMO's.
But now it is!, and they will ofcourse go to a better chinese MMO if they can, and now they are doing that!
But i think if next expansion is burning legion, i wouldn't even be surprised if those 4-5M pple who left, like 2M will return atleast?
WoW is unique again for them and they will be back, after a small break they will be happy again and better then ever! =)
I'm sure WoW will gain ALOT of subs in next expansion.
You heard it from me first.
First off - I believe you overestimate the popularity of Burning Crusade. Just because a bunch of people on the forums are clamoring for their love of BC doesn't mean that the majority who left were exclusively fans of BC.
Secondly - you have to ask yourself "WHY were they fans of BC". Were they because of the demons? Or was it because of the gameplay design of the heroics/raids, the tier separation between players and the nonexistence of Daily quest grinds?
My point is that they will be expecting Burning Crusade part 2 - and what they'll get is Mists of Pandaria gameplay painted to look like the Burning Legion.
Will it boost subs? Sure! But I'm MORE than betting that those BC fans will bail JUST as fast as the Diablo 2 fans did from Diablo III when they find out it's NOT a return to Burning Crusade gameplay.
...of course that's assuming it IS a Burning Legion expansion. :P