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    First time building a computer. Please help!

    So i will building my first computer soon. Im not that worried, but i have a few questions. First i will post my parts:

    Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Stryker SGC-5000W-KWN1 Black and White Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

    Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

    PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 120-PB-0750-KR 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Power Supply

    Ram: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX

    Mobo: MSI Z77A-GD65 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core *(Not planning on overclocking)

    Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP

    Optical: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

    OS: Windows 7

    Here are my questions:
    Will this setup run WoW and SC2 on high/ultra settings at a decent FPS (mostly in 10man raids and 200/200 encounters in SC)?
    Are all of these parts compatible? I check and i didn't find anything that didn't match, but just to make sure.

    Any tips are welcome! Thanks in advanced.

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    Moved to build-help.

    Yes, it will run it more than fine. I would, personally, make it an i5-3570K, make the PSU 650w and make the GPU a HD7950. That should save you a lot of money while keeping the performance identical, more if you do decide to overclock.
     

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    - Non-overclockable processor can be used on B75 or H77 board, and in that case i5-3350P gives best value for money instead of i5-3570
    - Radeon 7970 is total overkill for Blizzard games, Radeon 7870XT (Tahiti LE) would be better value
    - Case is up to your personal taste, but I think it has too much bling and it's also very expensive
    - PSU is also bit more expensive and fancier than needed

    Make some of the changes mentioned above and get an SSD instead. It will bring more happiness in years to come.
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    Thanks for the suggestions. I changed my motherboard to a MSI ZH77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS. Im still looking around at 650 power supplies though. However, with the new mobo, will everything still be compatible with it? Thanks

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    Thanks for the suggestions. I was looking around and found the MSI ZH77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS mobo. I guess i will use that but is it still compatible with all of my parts? Im still looking for a 650w power supply, too.

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    As Vesseblah said, the Z77 isn't needed for overclocking.. HOWEVER, based off your demands and budget, you should. I dont think you can get WoW to go totally smooth in raids without it.
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    For mmo's an overclocked cpu is worth far more than a fancy gpu. You can put a titan with a 3570k @ stock and won't get stable fps in 25m raids. Or you can run a 660 with a 3570k + NH-D14 (@4.5ghz+) and get much better frame rates in 25m raids.
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    Ok, so i just upped my i5 to a i5-3570K so i can overclock, but im hesitant to keep that change because im not sure how hard overclocking is, plus i dont want to screw anything up. Can anybody give me some insight on what it's like and what difficulties i may have doing it?

    Also, if it doesnt seem too hard to OC i will go back to my previous mobo that i mentioned earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opportunity231 View Post
    Ok, so i just upped my i5 to a i5-3570K so i can overclock, but im hesitant to keep that change because im not sure how hard overclocking is, plus i dont want to screw anything up. Can anybody give me some insight on what it's like and what difficulties i may have doing it?

    Also, if it doesnt seem too hard to OC i will go back to my previous mobo that i mentioned earlier.
    On modern motherboards, it's a crapton simpler than overclocking, say, first-gen Celeron processors back in 1998. It's usually an iterative process, for example, this Youtube video should give you most of what you need. your mobo may even have a button on it for even simpler overclocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenangrychickens View Post
    On modern motherboards, it's a crapton simpler than overclocking, say, first-gen Celeron processors back in 1998.
    You picked one of the worst possible examples to prove your point. Overclocking the first gen Slot1 Celerons back in 1998 would require you to move some jumpers on the motherboard that set the FSB for fixed 4.5x multiplier. You had the option for 50/66/83/100 base speed (jumps of 16). 300MHz Celeron which was the best seller required you to manually put the jumper to 66 setting when putting the computer together. About half of the processors could handle 83 (373MHz) without problems and usually that 25% overclock required just moving one jumper.

    Jumpers was the standard way to set the clock speed or even overclock processors for nearly 20 years, before SSE capable Coppermine series was released in 2000 and the FSB setting moved into BIOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesseblah View Post
    You picked one of the worst possible examples to prove your point.
    Tell us your real feelings about bridging the L1 connectors on old Athlon CPUs to overclock. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    Tell us your real feelings about bridging the L1 connectors on old Athlon CPUs to overclock. >.>
    I tried the lead pencil trick but never got it to work sadly...
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