View Poll Results: What would you do with Garrosh

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  • Exile

    122 13.88%
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    104 11.83%
  • Redemption

    99 11.26%
  • Killed

    496 56.43%
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    58 6.60%
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  1. #141
    Why everyone hates Garrosh? It is true that at present his actions are more than reprehensible and therefore he should be stopped and receive a just punishment, but we cannot forget that he has been the only one who has led the Horde to its splendor, he has brought together former allies under his command and has more than proved its worth. Garrosh Hellscream is a hero of the Horde! With the amount of progress that he has brought to the Horde ... If the Horde does not appreciate how good Warchief is he, then Garrosh's future must be somewhere else!

    With Garrosh Live, a new threat looms over Azeroth ... a new faction with new interests ... For the love of God! That would give a lot of play in the future! Kill Garrosh is very boring and predictable! Blizzard, Surprise us all! Please!

    The Dark Horde will be proud to have Garrosh as their Warchief, now that Rend Blackhand is officially dead. With the help of the Grimtotem tauren, the Prophet Zul's Zandalari trolls and the entire Dark Horde, Garrosh Hellscream, son of Grom Hellscream, will take the place that belongs in his own right.

    Garrosh for Warchief! Garrosh Hellscream for ever! For the TRUE Horde! For the Dark Horde!


    List of facts about Garrosh and Thrall


    • • Garrosh has been a good leader for the Horde, indeed, has been the Warchief of the Horde long needed. Why do I say this? Because just before his arrival, the Horde-Alliance conflict was practically dead. Garrosh has revived the WAR, when by the end of the day we are in the World of WARcraft.

      Besides, what had done Thrall lately as Warchief? From that he liberated his people and established the Horde capital in a dusty desert, has done virtually nothing: the Horde was stagnant in every way, it is more, ultimately the Warchief of the Horde himself abandoned the Horde to their fate when he had to engage in his shamanic tasks.

      And Garrosh? what has made Garrosh for the Horde? Well to begin his war effort in Northrend was spectacular, which showed the power of the Horde beyond Kalimdor. But above all, when he became Warchief, gave an unprecedented impetus to the Horde itself: the creation of a naval force and a powerful army, reconstruction of Orgrimmar, exploitation of new raw materials, acquisition of new allies, the conquest of new lands and ultimately, an advance of the Horde in every conceivable aspect, not to mention the excellent military and strategist functions of the own Garrosh Hellscream, and the awe and respect that imposes his mere presence. In short, Garrosh is the best Warchief that the Horde could ever have.

    • • Since we met Garrosh in Nagrand we have seen him change drastically, which is logical given his volatility and weak personality. But lately there is something that has turned him even more radicalized. In fact, until not long ago, he condemned the indiscriminate attacks towards innocent people and he hated dealing with demons and the most vicious practices of the Forsaken. However, it is undeniable that the last acts of Garrosh are more irrational, as if he was carried away by their primary feelings, as if he did not mind the honor of battle, in short, is as if he was possessed, as if something had changed inside him and amplify his negative desires.

      Given this Garrosh's progression, it is easy and logical to think that something or someone is taking advantage of the emotional weakness of Garrosh and is using him to create conflict, even inside the Horde itself. So it stands to reason that a foreign agent (Old God, demon, Sha) may be behind the radicalization of the Warchief, in fact that would be the most likely...

      Assuming that the recent acts of Garrosh are due to an external agent that is influencing him, his redemption is possible, and for this, it would be enough with eliminate the source of his corruption, so that Garrosh himself realizes the mistakes he has made. I personally hope that Garrosh does not end being foully murdered, but he is forgiven for his sins, even if it means some sort of punishment or degradation, but never kill him.

    • • Garrosh Hellscream is a major hero of the Warcraft story, especially for the Horde. He is the son of the liberator of the orc race from the bondage of the Burning Legion, Grom Hellscream, and is a character full of nuances and connotations. It is too important to die in a raid. His future will certainly great things holds for, it would be a real shame to lose a character like Garrosh as well as thus. It is a character that can give much play in future events, whether redeemed or as if he is relegated to being a villain.

      Maybe Garrosh might redeem himself, however, it is clear that Garrosh has to stop being the Warchief, perhaps his future is not in the Horde, since the Horde may be too "soft" to have a leader like Garrosh. His future may be more like being a leader of a revived faction: the Dark Horde. The Dark Horde would be pleased to proclaim him as a leader and would benefit from Garrosh's full potential. A Dark Horde led by Garrosh Hellscream with the support of the Grimtotem tauren and Zandalari trolls servants of the Prophet Zul would form a faction certainly very interesting ... I'd bet on it.

      Whatever it is, Garrosh Hellscream deserves more than be the last boss in a raid!

    • • Possibly related to the issue of Garrosh leaving the Horde one way or another, Thrall (Go'el from now) has confirmed his return to the Horde, that is, he leaves behind his neutrality as the shaman savior of the world and will return to interfere in the affairs of the Horde. But seems strange that the path that Go'el began in the early cataclysm can be undone, i.e. if Go'el had already chosen his destiny as the Earth-Warder, he cannot now return to the Horde: his time in the Horde has passed.

      Go'el's counterpart in the Alliance is Malfurion Stormrage, and as you know, he behaves himself neutral in all respects. Why would Go'el interfere in the Horde and Malfurion not do the same in the Alliance? It would be unfair to the Alliance, to put it delicately.

    • • Go'el / Thrall returns to the Horde: is already confirmed. Whatever his role is hopefully the Alliance is reimbursed for some way, if not, again we will see clearly what is the Blizzard's favorite faction.

      But not only Go'el / Thrall's return to the Horde leaves the Alliance in a bad place, if not in this expansion, in which presumably the Alliance would recover all losses suffered at the hands of the Horde after cataclysm, the Alliance lost one of their capitals: Theramore is destroyed. How does Blizzard compensate the Alliance after these events? Very simple: an eye for an eye, tooth for tooth. Or another Horde capital is destroyed (something I do not support), or another "lost" city of the Alliance is recovered to replace Theramore, as Dalaran.

      So again, the Alliance needs to retrieve something after this whole debacle, and if we lose a city it is logical that we recover another. Dalaran and the Kirin Tor would be ideal as they cannot claim neutrality in a war that they bear directly and cannot hide no more their historical affiliation with the Alliance. If Thrall / Go'el leaves neutrality behind and returns to the Horde, I do not understand how the Kirin Tor could not do the same, especially in these circumstances.

      It is true that at present it seems that the loyalty of Dalaran, the Kirin Tor and Jaina are with the Alliance, but we'll see what happens when Garrosh is dethroned and he is no longer a threat to anyone ... Will Dalaran, the Kirin Tor and Jaina herself return to the uncomfortable state of neutrality imposed by her predecessor Rhonin? I'm afraid so, and that would be a kick in the teeth to all the Alliance (excluding the future neutralization of two more heroes of the Alliance: Alleria and Turalyon).



    PD. By comparison:


    Which one inspires more fear, more respect, more power?

    As a bonus, the soundtrack of Garrosh's Horde -> http://www.goear.com/listen/342c5e6/...ld-of-warcraft


  2. #142
    Nah, just kill him. If you exile him or put him in prison that only gives him the chance to return later, which I don't think anyone wants. Redemption is impossible, so that leaves death.

    Plus, when you think about it, when exactly have we "spared" a main expansion villain? Illidan, Arthas, and Deathwing were all killed. The only one to survive was Kil'jaeden, (if you want to count him as the main villain of BC..which I don't) but he's a being of incredible power that deserves another go-around, Garrosh is just some punk orc who should die on the first pass.

  3. #143
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    All of the above. He is redeemed, but no one cares, so they exile him to a distant prison, where he dies.

  4. #144
    I'd honestly like him dead, but I voted for imprisonment. I can imagine a twist in the story and he ends up living, but it would have to be handled carefully. As others have said, if he's kept alive just because of his father then that would be stupid. Sons aren't their fathers! Likewise, if Garrosh is imprisoned in the tallest tower of the biggest building in Durotar, then it could serve as a reminder.

    For example, imagine one of those large pillars making up the "back entrance" of Orgrimmar. He could have a tiny cell in one of those, difficult to spot, but if you get up there and talk with him, he'll be all sad and pathetic, trapped till the end of his days. Sometimes, being kept alive is a better punishment than death.


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  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    All of the above. He is redeemed, but no one cares, so they exile him to a distant prison, where he dies.
    This made me laugh harder than it should have.
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  6. #146
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    i want him exiled, then later hunted down, imprisoned, put out in the middle of orgrimmar for show, then later executed with Vol'Jin being the executioner.

  7. #147
    I would pitch for atonement.

    Not redemption, where he is absolved of his deeds, but atonement.

    He will spend the rest of his days pushing the boulder up that hill, never reaching the summit before he must go back down and start again.

    That fate I think seems appropriate.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Northem View Post
    Why everyone hates Garrosh? It is true that at present his actions are more than reprehensible and therefore he should be stopped and receive a just punishment, but we cannot forget that he has been the only one who has led the Horde to its splendor, he has brought together former allies under his command and has more than proved its worth. Garrosh Hellscream is a hero of the Horde! With the amount of progress that he has brought to the Horde ... If the Horde does not appreciate how good Warchief is he, then Garrosh's future must be somewhere else!

    WTF? The Horde is divided like never before and we're about to see a full Darkspear Trolls revolution, the Forsaken hate him, the Blood Elves almost rejoined the Alliance, Baine and the taurens hate him too for killing Cairne.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    WTF? The Horde is divided like never before and we're about to see a full Darkspear Trolls revolution, the Forsaken hate him, the Blood Elves almost rejoined the Alliance, Baine and the taurens hate him too for killing Cairne.
    It's not killing Cairne that they hate him for, it's the fact that he's pretty much pissing on everything else Thrall's Horde stood for.


    Cairne was completely and 100% his own damn fault and no one should hate Garrosh for that. If anything they should hate Magatha.

  10. #150
    Orgrimmar was only a setback!

  11. #151
    Stabbed, shot, beheaded, burned, beaten, castrated, hanged, and quartered. Did I miss anything?

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    Leave him on a zeppelin floating up in the sky with no food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bledgor View Post
    Stabbed, shot, beheaded, burned, beaten, castrated, hanged, and quartered. Did I miss anything?
    Tarred and feathered.

  14. #154
    Death, by exile!

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixhart View Post
    It's not killing Cairne that they hate him for, it's the fact that he's pretty much pissing on everything else Thrall's Horde stood for.


    Cairne was completely and 100% his own damn fault and no one should hate Garrosh for that. If anything they should hate Magatha.
    Yep, that too, but it's not like Cairne and Garrosh were close friends before the duel. Cairne challenged Garrosh (and btw he was winning too) because he was already killing innocent people and he could not stand such a thing. He was the first to stand against Garrosh actually. Its natural that Baine, which shares Thrall and Cairne's view of the Horde, hates him too.

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    I know what horrible fate he should met. We should force him to became.... anduins best friend. For eternity.
    This is something i wouldnt wish to worst enemy.

  17. #157
    other:

    one of jaina's 'annoyed' dialogues from when you repeatedly click on her is something along the lines of "how would you like to spend the rest of your life as a sheep?" I think that would be both hilarious, and a fantastic form of vengeance for theramore.

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    WTF? The Horde is divided like never before and we're about to see a full Darkspear Trolls revolution, the Forsaken hate him, the Blood Elves almost rejoined the Alliance, Baine and the taurens hate him too for killing Cairne.
    I was referring to the old Garrosh, who was an exemplary Warchief, not to this new Nazi-Garrosh, too irate and possessed...


  19. #159
    My money is on Thrall blasting him into colourful confetti with a golden dragon kamehameha.

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    All 3. don't tell me it isn't possible.

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