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    Unholy 4pc question

    Is the Unholy 4pc worth getting? Been thinking if I coin or win shoulder token or chest token I might replace either http://www.wowhead.com/item=113831/c...lity&bonus=567 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=113855/u...ates&bonus=567. Have the gloves but have WF H http://www.wowhead.com/item=113906/g...lows&bonus=566.

    Curious if 4pc is worth it

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    Yes it is worth it. I forget the exact increase, 2% to 3%. Sure some one else can confirm.

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    Unless you're doing a MAJOR downgrade in ilvl the 4 piece is worth it, as even with less optimal stats or a slight stat downgrade that won't equal out to the 2-3% gain that the set bonus gives.
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    if the pieces I get either shoulder or chest are just heroic than I may only go down 1-2 ilvls

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    Don't want to make another thread for this, but does anyone else really dislike the Unholy 4 piece? Not from a power perspective but in the sense that it could give you runes at awkward times when you don't want them. I find it really unintuitive and I often end up delaying DT as to not cap runes, or finding myself with a death rune that I don't know what to do with (do I SS and not have the death rune for BB when the adds spawn in a few seconds or do I BB on single target etc?). Currently it's just adding another layer of confusion as to what to do when, for me.

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    No way unholy 4 piece is 2-3% dps increase.

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    4set is about 2% of your dps worth. Last time i checked sims it was a tad bit more than 2% for ST and a bit less for AoE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khain View Post
    No way unholy 4 piece is 2-3% dps increase.
    You should get an extra Death Rune every 30 seconds, ideally. (though will likely be a bit lower in practice)

    Just going on general Scourge Strike damage (17,200 non-crit up to 42,000 crit [combined shadow and physical])

    17,200 / 30 = +573 DPS
    42,000 / 30 = +1,400 DPS

    573 / 35,000 DPS (average ST for around 680 ilvl) +1.6%
    1,400 / 35,000 DPS = +4.0%

    Can be higher if there are Necrosis + Multistrike procs or if used on a Death and Decay or a Blood Boil on AoE encounters.

    Just take whatever your average 1-rune ability hits for, and divide by 30 seconds (bit of a simplified method), should give the approximate DPS gain for you as an individual.
    Last edited by Breyers; 2015-03-19 at 06:01 PM.

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    Eh, I think other peoples 4 piece is more important, so ill take my 2 piece then pass on loot till others get their far more important 4pc.

    I've already got 685 pieces in each of the tier slots, so it doesn't hurt much at all.
    Last edited by Bluey111; 2015-03-21 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey111 View Post
    Eh, I think other peoples 4 piece is more important, so ill take my 2 piece then pass on loot till others get their far more important 4pc.
    I agree. I let other classes in my guild get it before me.

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    Its nice to have i guess until say a helm and gloves drop that are the same ilvl with better stats and sockets. At that point i question what will be better and go mad trying out sims. Other situations like having a mythic helm (no socket) and then say heroic warforged gloves with a socket but the tier set you have is the heroic one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Wattmate View Post
    Its nice to have i guess until say a helm and gloves drop that are the same ilvl with better stats and sockets. At that point i question what will be better and go mad trying out sims. Other situations like having a mythic helm (no socket) and then say heroic warforged gloves with a socket but the tier set you have is the heroic one.
    Currently have 2 set (chest+legs) but also have Furnace helm (crit+multi) and the hans&franz gloves WITH socket (crit+mastery). Unsure if I should go for 4set or not seeing the stats on tier head (haste+multi) and gloves (crit+haste) are worse and by reading the 4set bonus it doesn't seem that strong to me at all (?)

    (have Blackhand Mythic shoulders aswell - from cache of course)
    Last edited by LickMeh; 2015-03-21 at 06:27 PM.

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    If you have tier gloves and head hc then the 4 set will be better. Furnace and t helm are about equivalent, haste isn't that far below crit, can be depending ont alent choice and fight also be higher as haste's value depnds on ams soaking and also PL.
    One better stat + socket isn't even close to 2% of your dmg which is the 4piece.

    You would need 3 wf + socket items with equal or better itemization, or 3 items of a higher difficulty level + atleast one socket of equal or better itemization to make it worth dropping the 4set.
    Simmed quite a few variations and for instance 2 mythic items with one socket and worse itemization couldn't beat 4 set on 2 simply heroic t items.(shoulders and legs in this case)
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