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    Another wow Expansion.. level 95? what then? level 100? We might as well play on fun servers then
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    Next expansion has already been announced, it's called "Legacy of the Zerg", and it will be based on the heroic lone Hydralisk which helped Tyrande during the Warcraft 3 Night Elf mission where she had to escape the Doomguards. After seeing the success they could stretch out of something like pandaren, Blizzard feels that all its Easter Eggs and April Fool's races should now get the proper attention they deserve in World of Warcraft.

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    In all this speculation, I'm amazed nobody has mentioned the fact that Titan devs ( 90 I believe ) just got shuffled off to all the other games. So not only do you have the much-discussed faster release schedule that Blizz has been aiming for ( and achieving so far ) - but you also have a ton of additional talent working on content.

    5.4 will be August
    Expac announce will be November
    5.5 mini patch will happen after BConn
    Open beta after BConn
    Expac launch Feb/Mar

    You basically have to throw out all previous history as far as projections go. The fact that Blizz has said they don't want to roll suff out like they have historically tells you that old trends now mean nothing.

    I'm confident in Blizz based on how I"ve seen them turn things around so far.

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    there will probably be some sort of filler raid to tide us over if the next expansion takes longer than expected.

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    We MIGHT see Blizzard trademarking their new expansions name this summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Ariakan View Post
    It is a totally new game... ...Because they told so? Just because they say something about it doesn't need to be actually true. Especially since it will be a massive, secret project?

    You.. sound paranoid, you remembered your tinfoil hat? They said it was going to be an MMO, and wasn't going to be set within a universe we know from previous games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trakanonn View Post
    BlizzCon isnt until November, 6 months from now, meaning patch 5.4 will be near its middle-end and that a new expansion would be hitting the stores soon. So wouldnt they announce the next Expansion long before November?
    On Friday at the developer discussion, someone jokingly asked what the new expansion was and the response was laughter and a "come to Blizzcon."

    Obviously that's not a promise and Blizzard is not shy about changing things around if something else makes more sense later, but it just further reinforces my belief that Blizzcon will be the initial announcement.
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    What I forsee at blizzcon 2013

    Expansion V discussion/reveal.
    Diablo3 expansion discussion/reveal (its been out long enough).
    SC2 Protoss expansion discussion/reveal.
    Hearthstone content addition.
    Possible 5th game reveal/discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    What I forsee at blizzcon 2013

    Expansion V discussion/reveal.
    Diablo3 expansion discussion/reveal (its been out long enough).
    SC2 Protoss expansion discussion/reveal.
    Hearthstone content addition.
    Possible 5th game reveal/discussion.
    A lot of people were expecting (I'm going with hoping) that 'Titan' would be teased at this year, and I could see that happening, minus a few things - this is going to be a BUSY Blizzcon no way around it. I believe it is in Blizz's interest to not show, or perhaps tease, any of that content especially with reset. They need something to announce next year and other than playable stuff, it seems like next year will be quiet. So IMO, I think Blizz needs to keep quiet on that MMO to get the most out of each Blizzcon. Def buying Blizzcon coverage this year!

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    Like my cited graph shows, Blizzcon is simply too late for an announcement.

    They need:

    - 2 months between announcement and beta at the very least.
    - 5 months (roughly) of testing.
    - 1 month (at least) between beta end and exp release, for final polish and marketing.

    Additionally, we know:

    - They want to avoid another 'DS'.
    - They are working hard to shorten down development cycles with a 'shorter expansion, shorter development cycle' motto.
    - 5.4 is the final major raid patch, i.e. the last patch of significant content for a majority of players before 6.0.

    An announcement at Blizzcon places the release around July 2014, which means about 10-11 months of Siege of Orgrimmar. Exactly what they don't want, and exactly what would cause a minor disaster for the subscription numbers.

    Announcing the expansion in August, however, allows them to keep a steady beta and marketing schedule and get the expansion out around April 2014, giving us only 7-8 months of Siege of Orgrimmar.

    Anyone with a brain will see what is more likely.

    Also, they can announce it this summer but leave the meat of the information for Blizzcon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    What I forsee at blizzcon 2013

    Expansion V discussion/reveal.
    Diablo3 expansion discussion/reveal (its been out long enough).
    SC2 Protoss expansion discussion/reveal.
    Hearthstone content addition.
    Possible 5th game reveal/discussion.
    What I forsee for BlizzCon 2013 if... Lots of drinks, fastfood and snacks and my gaze fixed onto my monitor for the live streaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Risin View Post
    - 2 months between announcement and beta at the very least.
    Orly? And why is this? If they are pushing date, they could easily be ready to launch beta on the same day they make the announcement. There is absolutely no need to have any time between announce and release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyphe View Post
    Orly? And why is this? If they are pushing date, they could easily be ready to launch beta on the same day they make the announcement. There is absolutely no need to have any time between announce and release.
    There's plenty of reasons. They want the message to sink in; they want people to sign up, and afford themselves some time for a selection process; they want more time for marketing and hype, etc. I can cut it down to 1 month, but I simply do not see a major developer like Blizzard doing something as impulsive as announcing the game and opening the beta simultaneously. It simply isn't practical. Besides, one news point takes the spotlight off the other.
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    I don't believe previous expansions are anything to go by heading forward, Blizzard have stated several times they want expansions out quicker and content as a whole, there is no way in hell they'd wait another 10+ months after Blizzcon to release the expansion after the final tier is done.

    I imagine they wonder "if ICC/DS didn't last so long how many more subs we'd still have".

    Personally I think they'll announce the expansion before Blizzcon (~release of 5.4) and use Blizzcon for Diablo/SC and the opening of beta testing for the new expansion which could last until roughly February before a release in April.

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    I'd imagine that there WILL be a 5.5 patch. We normally get a .0 patch quite a way off the next expansion, with a load of extra stuff. I think instead they'll just do this as 5.5 with the new models maybe and a few quests around whatever world event will tie it into the next patch. I can't imagine there's going to be another raid though, even a 1 or 2 boss one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Agreed.... the only question remains is, what is Blizz listening to? The voice of the consumer - or their accountants saying "Well, sir, it helped lock in over a million people before!"

    ...and never, EVER, underestimate the power of the impulse buying mentality. Looked how it worked for the PS4 six-months before its release! :P

    Lastly, as somebody said above - it's got to be "one amazing Ballerina pony to get me to get the pass again". Who knows how Blizz may sweeten the deal this time around. Hell man - they might even throw in the next expansion for free. That would get a lot of people impulse-buying right away!
    I also think that any good accountant would realize that just because something worked once, doesn't guarantee it would work again.

    But I can totally tell you, I would sign up for an annual pass or 6-month pass if it gave the expansion for free and I liked the look of the theme/content. Of course, I'm also a player that has and plans to play for a while longer.

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    Anything outside of Blizzcon doesnt make sense. A lot of you dont understand how marketing and Hype works. Blizzcon is a pretty important event in terms of announcment and hype, a lot of people watch it via online, its pretty much viewd by alot of online gamers, in some shape or form. So honestly, official annoucement before Blizzcon is pretty stupid. The whole ''but then beta would take too long!!!'' its pretty short sighted. They can announce it 8/9 nov and beta start like the week later, just like they did with the Press conferance for MoP in 2012. Beta could run of to like march and be completely on track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Ariakan View Post
    Okay, let's sum up some facts:

    1. The next expansion should've be announced by now by all marketing strategies and Blizzard's usual need for aiming holiday markets.
    2. Since WoW has started to grow old and not to lure so many new players recent years, they have to be at least planning WoW2 or whatever you want to call it.
    3. They have announced they will tell more about Titan MMO this year.
    4. The most obvious way to keep hype not peak too early is to say "It is NOT WoW 2" (remember GW2 and all the jersey secrecy? well, this is the same, excep for Blizz).
    5. Announcing WoW2 and next expansion would cut purchases from the expansion.

    --> Blizzard will announce Titan MMO is WoW2, hence there is no need to create an expansion but to start creating a hype this year. I mean, what would they have said? "Yes, we are working on Titan, se super secret project. And it will be WoW related."? Not likely. This strategy will give them time to develop in privacy, and create quite a magnificent surprise.

    Logical?
    Okay... 1. They completely restarted the development of Titan so I doubt they'll be saying much about it at blizzcon besides some basic info

    2. Titan has no connection to wow besides being made by blizzard

    3. Blizzard have always said they'll make expansions/new content until people stop playing

    4. Blizzard have already said many MANY times that they're making a new expansion

    5. A game takes years to develop, especially an mmo, you mention GW2, do you not remember how long that was being made? (Literally years).

    6. How would announcing an mmo about a completely different universe draw sales away from an expansion for another mmo especially when Titan won't be out for at least 2 years and the expansion would be released early next year?

    I'm guessing you probably didn't see the news about Titan being 'restarted' otherwise you have high hopes for it being released soon

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    My Guess is:

    Mid August -- 5.4 release
    Early to Mid September -- Blizzard trademarks a a title and MMOC speculation explodes in full force
    Early October -- 5.5 announced
    Early November -- Blizzcon, next expansion announced, annual pass maybe announced
    Early December -- 5.5 release
    Mid December -- Expansion Beta Begins, honestly if the beta is open to masses again it will keep people subbed without new retail content.
    Mid January -- 6.0 coming to PTR
    Late Feb to Early March -- 6.0 released
    Early to Mid April -- Expansion release
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shampro View Post
    Anything outside of Blizzcon doesnt make sense. A lot of you dont understand how marketing and Hype works. Blizzcon is a pretty important event in terms of announcment and hype, a lot of people watch it via online, its pretty much viewd by alot of online gamers, in some shape or form. So honestly, official annoucement before Blizzcon is pretty stupid. The whole ''but then beta would take too long!!!'' its pretty short sighted. They can announce it 8/9 nov and beta start like the week later, just like they did with the Press conferance for MoP in 2012. Beta could run of to like march and be completely on track.
    It is you who don't understand the way it works. Blizzcon isn't marketing, it's a fan service. Any news they can get out from Blizzcon to the world, they can do just as well on any other day of the year. The world press watches Blizzard constantly, and a game announcement would be front page news everywhere regardless if it's Blizzcon or not.

    The fact that they traditionally announce a lot of games there has simply been a convenience, and an extra treat to the show's visitors and viewers. If they need to announce Exp V elsewhere, they will, and everyone will know about it within hours.

    MoP press conference wasn't the announcement. It was just extra information for marketing in the magazines and the website articles. A week between announcement and beta isn't gonna happen, buddy.
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