Originally Posted by
zeropeorth
dress up? or dress down?
Dress up implies formality, you wouldn't go to a formal dinner in a bikini nor naked. A man 'dressed up' is usually at minimum in long sleeves and slacks, but usually jacket & tie/suit/tux. You don't see men 'dressing up' in tank tops/no shirt/muscle shirts. Very high heels are not only uncomfortable for women to walk in, bad for their bodies ... but women do it specifically for how it shapes their bums, same with push up bras for cleavage, they go beyond extra support, for a visual effect.
Funny you try to say it is a male problem, because you are trying to say women can't have the same opinion as men, and that all women think dressing without modesty is classy. My wife doesn't think so. She may not have the same extreme views as some men, but 'flaunting it' is more than just looking good/feeling good. You can do that without showing your cleavage in a push up bra or short shorts with your ass cheeks hanging out. We both will go naked around the house, but neither of us think it is acceptable to be strutting around town naked.
There is nothing wrong with being sexy, sultry, etc. But, if you dress attractive, expect people that are attracted to your type, to get attracted. If you are a woman, that means that straight men and gay women will appreciate what they see. It isn't a 'man' thing, it is an attraction thing. Lesbians sexualize women too, not just straight men.
The same thing goes for men. If a man is wearing something that shows off his body, he should damn well (and most men understand this concept, even if they are only doing it because they love themselves that much) know that women and gay men that like his type, will catch glances and be attracted. Muscle shirts, speedos, tight pants, etc. all of that, is not 'dressing up', and damn sure will catch attention.
What we have here is the the problem of denying women as sexual beings, with sexual desires, and are just as perverted as men in a generalized sense ... except they get to hide and pretend otherwise based on the gender stereotypes. They lust for men (or women), oogle, and stare just as much as men do; even if they are a bit less obvious about it most of the time.
This trend of misandry is disgusting ... it isn't a right of women because of past misogyny; it is equally wrong and distasteful. It is also shameful that people are so caught up in this idea of physical 'perfection' for both genders. The standard is high for both ... men need to be chiseled, hairless, and a full head of hair, and success/wealth usually plays a part; women shouldn't need to be extraordinarily athletic/toned/skinny either. These, though attainable, aren't realistic ... and in real life ... well an episode of scrubs got it right 'Carla' wanted 'Turk' to be fit, he was gaining some weight, but when he focused on getting back to his prior physique, they both realized spending time together, and their love for each other was more important than having this fantasized, idealized physical image.
There is nothing wrong with the sexualization with our species either. Sex is a pleasurable thing between two consenting adults. I'd rather everyone be fucking than immersed in violence and hate ... which particularly in the U.S., is much more accepted than our beautiful human bodies. People just need to calm the hell down across the board on nudity and sex. So what if a girl/guy stares me down, at least I'm that damn sexy. My wife is bi, and you should be honored if we both happen to appreciate your boobies accentuated by your low cut shirt and fancy push up bra ... or your super tight jeans showing off your butt.