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    It's not fair ! - How Socialism is affecting WoW

    After seeing the "It's not fair" thread listed as a blue response on the front page here, i have come to the conclusion that WoW has become so Left Wing orientated that it's not unreasonable to say it is now entering communistic levels.

    The idea that everybody gets equal loot, equal rewards, but some people are putting more effort in, is nothing short of Communism.


    Obviously MMO-C is monitored and connected to Blizzard (possibly even on payroll), and occasionaly, if you look hard enough, you will see Blue posters right here on the MMO-C boards. If you share any thoughts about WoW that don't represent the current state of the game, you will get infracted and banned. All you have to do is look around and see the amount of banned posters on MMO-C, to see for yourself. The numbers are getting very high.


    Now I'm not saying that Communism and Oppression is necessarily a bad thing, but i would ask the question - "Is this causing the demise of WoW?".


    The subscription numbers were highest when competition was at it's peak, and now all forms competition are slowly being squashed and all rewards are being made equal, is it any surprise that the game is being strangled and dieing a slow death?


    People say politics dont enter the gaming industry, but they very clearly do in WoW's case, and political ideaology seems to be having a direct impact on subscription numbers and the general "well-being, happiness, contentment" levels of its playerbase.


    Thoughts?

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    Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

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    Except people don't get equal loot or equal rewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps4eva View Post
    Obviously MMO-C is monitored and connected to Blizzard (possibly even on payroll), and occasionaly, if you look hard enough, you will see Blue posters right here on the MMO-C boards. If you share any thoughts about WoW that don't represent the current state of the game, you will get infracted and banned. All you have to do is look around and see the amount of banned posters on MMO-C, to see for yourself. The numbers are getting very high.

    Thoughts?
    MMO-C isn't connected to Blizzard at all. People get banned for loads of reasons and none of them are due to talking negatively about the state of the game. Your communism analogy fails you work harder you get better rewards in WoW. LFR does not give players the same reward they get from HM raiding.

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    Even if it was (though it doesn't) socialism and communism is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vindicatorx View Post
    LFR does not give players the same reward they get from HM raiding.

    The get to see the game, the graphics, the storytelling in it's entirety.


    The "numbers" are nothing more than an illusion of seperation.


    The only real rewards that seperate HM raiders from LFR raiders is the odd mount here and there.

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    Pleasing the majority of a consumer base =/= socialism.
    This might help you though, OP

    Also I should mention that socialism is not the same as communism. Example.
    Last edited by Asics; 2013-06-02 at 08:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps4eva View Post
    The get to see the game, the graphics, the storytelling in it's entirety.
    Yes, because that's what they pay for.

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    Tying game development to an ideology is bad and you should feel bad.

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    I guess I'll say it here.

    While I agree (me being a Casual), that raiders should get better gear and mounts for their efforts; raiders attitudes to LFR and casuals is way out of line.
    They say that LFR should be removed, then what else do we casuals have to do? Dailies and scenarios/dungeons. Thats it. What if Blizz were to remove raiding, what would you raiders do?

    Not to mention if you don't like LFR, then don't f***ing do it.
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    You sir, are an idiot.

    I get as frustrated by people whining and bitching about stuff as anyone. But to extrapolate from that to an intentional socialism....

    You sir, are an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps4eva View Post
    The get to see the game, the graphics, the storytelling in it's entirety.


    The "numbers" are nothing more than an illusion of seperation.


    The only real rewards that seperate HM raiders from LFR raiders is the odd mount here and there.
    I again disagree the sense of satisfaction one gets from downing HM content is also a better reward. You honestly believe most players give a shit about the storytelling or the graphics? WHen I HM raided it was all about the challenge meeting those goals are what pushed us. Most people can not claim they cleared HM content a lot can't claim they cleared normal modes either. Again your analogy fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirtyrock View Post
    You sir, are an idiot.

    I get as frustrated by people whining and bitching about stuff as anyone. But to extrapolate from that to an intentional socialism....

    You sir, are an idiot.
    And see this guy didn't say anything about the state of the game and he is going to be infracted for calling you an idiot which is a mistake on his part. Has nothing to do with questioning Blizzard or the state of the game.

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    You do not have a single clue as to how this site work, and your post count shows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps4eva View Post
    The get to see the game, the graphics, the storytelling in it's entirety.


    The "numbers" are nothing more than an illusion of seperation.


    The only real rewards that seperate HM raiders from LFR raiders is the odd mount here and there.
    If you don't like those "numbers", maybe the concept of a mmorpg is not the right for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vindicatorx View Post
    I again disagree the sense of satisfaction one gets from downing HM content is also a better reward. You honestly believe most players give a shit about the storytelling or the graphics? WHen I HM raided it was all about the challenge meeting those goals are what pushed us. Most people can not claim they cleared HM content a lot can't claim they cleared normal modes either. Again your analogy fails.

    ---------- Post added 2013-06-02 at 04:38 AM ----------


    And see this guy didn't say anything about the state of the game and he is going to be infracted for calling you an idiot which is a mistake on his part. Has nothing to do with questioning Blizzard or the state of the game.
    I'll be honest, I'll take this infraction. It'll be my first, and well worth it if I end up getting one. This guy seems like an obvious troll to me, he started an account to begin this trash and, in my humble opinion, should be ip banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps4eva View Post
    and connected to Blizzard (possibly even on payroll),
    Some assumptions should be tethered with caution as you are implying something here that seems to hint at some sort of unfair, biased business practices.

    If they were "on their payroll", would they have Rift, SWTOR, etc threads? Read the history of the site, how it was founded. The only "pay" I personally assume they get is probably advertising revenue. Curse do not only run this site. They run many. All sites such as these run on advertising revenue.

    I have seen some mods make comments such as "I find WoW's art & graphic style absolutely repulsive" ~ that sounds like a real fanboy right there! not.

    EDIT: You obviously have no idea what communism is and I would recommend you don't stand too close to any radio towers or go out into any electrical storms with that cap on.
    Last edited by theWocky; 2013-06-02 at 08:45 AM.

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    So why should 25 raids be more rewarding and have better loot even though they require less skill?

    Oh I forgot, you like your capitalism, the less you work the better pay you get.

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    Yet another idiot that does not know the difference between communism and socialism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zogarth View Post
    Yet another idiot that does not know the difference between communism and socialism...
    Why he posted it on an alt account probably.
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    Das ve donya comrade

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