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Hi guys yesterday i dropped this staff (522ilv): wowhead.com/item=96911
And now i have this main-hand/off-hand (530 with 2/2 upgrade): wowhead.com/item=9691 - wowhead.com/item=96826
I wanted to ask: Is it better to have full mastery / haste or a little more critical? Maintaining haste / mastery as main stats?
It's better the staff or mainhand/offhand?
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2013-06-05, 10:24 AM #1Deleted
Full Haste/Mastery or need item with crit?
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2013-06-05, 10:36 AM #2Deleted
depends on specc, your gear and the bossfight. No information from your side --> no answer
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2013-06-05, 10:38 AM #3Deleted
Crit isnt worth alot to any of the lock specs, while mastery/haste is generally solid for all specs.
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2013-06-05, 01:06 PM #4Deleted
Destro GoSup - Mastery→Haste
Destro GoSac - Mastery → Crit
Affli - Mastery → Haste (until breakpoint) then dump rest of haste to crit if the item already have mastery on it
So if you cant reach next breakpoint you go Mastery → Crit
Dunno about Demo, dont play it
This is the stat prio you go for overall play if you dont wanna respec/regem for some bossesLast edited by mmocf0f3fe9f57; 2013-06-05 at 01:09 PM.
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2013-06-05, 01:13 PM #5DeletedThat is so wrong its not even funny.
Originally Posted by Avengex
Destruction GoSup single target is usually - Haste -> Crit
Destruction GoSac (Cleave or generating many embers) Mastery -> Haste
Affliction is Haste -> mastery ->>>>>> Crit. Crit is useless for affliction.
Demo is haste until breakpoints -> Mastery -> crit
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2013-06-05, 01:27 PM #6Herald of the Titans
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glad you were nice about that lol. i was reading it like..."WTF?!" especially since crit has NEVER been a priority for aff...since launch even. Originally Posted by Drenaco
as for haste and mastery, they are so close when it comes to stat weight it is negligible, but if you are going to dump into one stat then go for haste. Once again (for now) mastery is pushed to the side.Last edited by vaeevictiss; 2013-06-05 at 01:31 PM.
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2013-06-05, 02:05 PM #7Pit Lord
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In Demo, Crit is a great stat IF you don't have UVLS trinket. Originally Posted by Drenaco
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2013-06-05, 02:55 PM #8Deleted
in general you should stay as far away from crit as you possibly can.
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2013-06-05, 05:15 PM #9DeletedI've been having good results with Mastery>Haste gosup. After simming every possible reforge (at the advice on people on here) the outcomes on a single target fight were fractions of my overall dps so I've found a mastery haste build works in every situation without constant reforging. Originally Posted by Drenaco
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2013-06-05, 05:18 PM #10Pandaren Monk
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Originally Posted by Amphetamìne
As mentioned, we need more information than this. Do you have UVLS? What Spec are you? What RPPM items do you have?
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2013-06-05, 05:36 PM #11Stood in the Fire
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I dont know why, but I have better dps using mastery > haste (to reach breakpoints) and even when not generating many embers. Originally Posted by Drenaco
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2013-06-05, 05:47 PM #12Epic!
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Simcraft sims haste very high for me (afflic), with haste values at 4,02 and mastery at 2,8~ at 526ilvl
Still have to see for demo, but i'm currently going demo 4fun cause i don't have UVLS yet.
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2013-06-05, 07:19 PM #13Epic!
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You're right, but UVLS is the reason you play Demo in the first place. Originally Posted by Scathbais
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2013-06-05, 07:23 PM #14DeletedYe well demo is not very good without uvls and if you go full crit you can't really switch to the other speccs without reforging and regemming again. Originally Posted by Scathbais
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2013-06-06, 04:19 AM #15Epic!
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I must say, demo is very good even without lei shen's trinket. High mobility and burst aoe works very good. Even without UVLS I can still see demo being beter on some encounters.
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2013-06-06, 10:39 AM #16Pandaren Monk
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Quoted for truth. Lots of talented but unlucky players killed Lei Shen Heroic with Demonology without UVLS. Originally Posted by evertonbelmontt
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2013-06-06, 10:59 AM #17Herald of the Titans
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I've been playing demo quite a lot without UVLS and it's sure not far behind affli and can do just as well as destro on many fights where you'd think destro is way ahead.
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2013-06-06, 07:56 PM #18DeletedHaha, I give you that I was totally off considering the Affli. Dont really know what I was thinking, must been high or something Originally Posted by Drenaco
But Im not totally off about the Destro part. Mastery-Haste gosup or Mastery-Crit gosac often sims higher but it all depends on what ilvl you have, trinkets etc etc. But for overall gameplay without reforging on cerrain bosses it works out great. Its more of an personal preference what you choose.
In the end I wanna say that Im taking my punish for giving out wrong (totally) stat prio on affli and switched to Destro/Demo instead. Had enough of channeling spells on my Spriest already
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