Its worth using. Adds dying faster=faster fight in most cases anyway. Although the only fights I use it on are galakras and paragons padding.
The only good fights for FFC are galakras, protectors (if they're kept stacked up), spoils (if you open a lot of small boxes), and nazgrim if adds are stacked on boss.
It's likely a dps loss to use FFC on garrosh due to the low uptime on adds. The proc also only has a 5 yard range, so it will not hit adds on norushen very often.
When you look at the chart I posted with trinkets, you have to mentally "guess" the percentage uptime of aoe vs single target.
Example being Garrosh. If I had to guess, I'm doing a single target rotation on Garrosh 90% of the time, and semi-aoeing 6-8 targets 10% of the time. For the sake of simplicity we'll say the fight is 12 minutes long.
It's around a 13k dps difference between thoks and FFC on single target, and with 90% uptime on my single target rotation that would be 648 seconds on garrosh * 13k = 8.42 million damage difference.
90k dps difference between trinkets on 8-target aoe, with a 8% uptime. 10% = 72~ seconds * 90k = 6.48 million damage difference.
So it's slightly better to go with normal trinkets rather than FFC.
Last edited by CollisionTD; 2014-05-11 at 07:38 PM.
For farm? I don't even bother.
When learning garrosh I used it to help kill adds faster in p1. But I also played arms for that or frost depending on which toon.
Protectors, Galakras, Nazgrim, Spoils. These fights will almost always benefit from you having FFC over Thok.
Immerseus, Norushen, Shamans, Siegecrafter, Garrosh. These fights can benefit from FFC, depending on if your group lacks in the AoE department.
That why we should have 4x X'alatoh warforged, 2 with WS and 2 with DS (when we use FFC) lol !
Last edited by Trubo; 2014-05-11 at 08:17 PM.
Not to change the subject, but is Bladestorm parsing over Dragon Roar even on a single target fight ATM? I'm 575 and several people have told me this but I was not sure.
Is it normal to get a SimC result where RB becomes higher damage per execute time than Execute? If so, does this mean that the "execute" range rotation changes?
SimC run with Dèlath in signature below. Both show a very even damage per execute time, but RB pulls very slightly ahead.
So I just started trying out bladestorm for single target. Do you always use berserker rage for bladestorm. If not then you may end up having to delay bladestorm if BT fails to crit. And you only get 2 shots. So what if you dont crit 2 BTs, then you go and use CS. So you still sure bladestorm > dragonroar?
Question at CollisionTD:
just saw you're using double-windsong according to your armory, why exactly?
i did some simulations of my own and appearently there is no real difference anymore (like a less than 1k dps margin on 400k+ fights (450sec)) and now i'm quite curious why you decided to go double windsong.
ah thx ... well, i searched for "windsong" and stuff, but seems like the search doesnt like me xD
well, how ever little of an increase it is now, its impact will get bigger with the 5.4.7 upgrade-buffs which will give us another 8 ilvl ...
One thing i'm also very interested in is, we actually keep stacking crit, but with those upgrades, could it actually be more useful to start gemming mastery at some point... like lets say around 43% crit (unbuffed, which would yield 90% bloodthirst crit-chance after suppression).
i personally feel like every point more crit i get i miss out on mastery and crit's usefulness really diminishes the closer we get to 48% (unbuffed) ...
ofc more crit means more enrage uptime, but should we really compensate for the "least lucky tries" and miss out on quite a lot of mastery?
would love to see some math on that, as with 5.4.7 this might be a concern