I mean, mario kart wii sold 33 million copies, that's more than ANY COD game ever.
the non bundle wii sports resort sold 31 million
wii play sold 28 million
new super mario bros wii sold 27 million
wii fit sold 22 million
brawl sold 10 million
super mario galaxy sold 10 million
and twilight princess is at the back with 7 million
all this coupled with the 100 million wii's sold, this isn't including the number of ds's or 3ds's sold either.
now if dead space 3 was setting itself up for disappointment by saying they needed 5 million to justify the game itself, then obviously nintendo is not in a tough spot here.
You realize if every game was on every console, there would be one clear winner when picking a console. That winner would eliminate the competition and have a monopoly over console gaming, meaning people have one choice for consoles. They could abuse it and give you the choice of either paying $35 a month for online, DRM, region-locking, etc OR you could not play console games again.
Taking away exclusives would create way more problems than it would solve.
Why is it when Nintendo does not have amazing profits, it should die? Even though the Sony hand helds... SUCK! btw Nintendo still has great profits, just not that great this year.
Microsoft's stock has been stagnant for years, Sony has had some issues too, but you dont care. Because you dont want to play mario 5000..... how about COD 100000 (hint, no difference between games for COD)
Nintendo does not charge for the same services Microsoft charges for. It has great exclusives with games people still play and want to play!
Last edited by GennGreymane; 2013-06-12 at 03:37 AM.
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It all started, ironically, with the introduciton of the original Xbox... believe it or not. :P
For the first time in Video Game history, a next-gen system launched that was DESIGNED to be sold at a loss - with MS hoping to play chicken with the Gamecube and (back then) majority industry holder Playstation 2, basically saying "HAH! we got tons of cash reserves! Lets see you top THIS!"
Sony answered the call (poorly) with the PS3, thus continuing a massive game of chicken (profit loss speaking) between the two
Nintendo basically said "Woooah! WTF!?! We don't operate on losses and don't gamble!" and, instead, decided to move sideways instead via remodeling the Gamecube and inventing the Wii-Mote... trying to go for a whole different audience and saving costs.
Ever since then... Nintendo has NOT wanted to engage in Sony/MS in a console-war, and thus they make refurbished last-generation consoles with gimmick controllers in an attempt to be "provide a unique experience". Where they fell flat on their face with the Wii was when they made a console people wanted, but NOBODY wanted to develop for simply because of their jack-leg controller. Everybody knew how to develop for the classic controller, not some wii-waggling thing. Not to mention the controller really frustrated developers in porting over games that require 8 buttons to use, when the Wii only had 2.
They've partially fixed the controller problem now... but the other problem remains that, well, they now have a piss-poor reputation of being the company who makes consoles that collects dust 2 months after you buy it due to a lack of games. Nobody wants a repeat of that...
Combine that with the fact that the 3rd party games today (assassin's creed, ect..) can be all obtained on PS3/Xbox 360 - why would you bother buying a Wii-U for the same game with barely any graphic upgrade?
as for the new nintendo titles coming out, while i haven't seen the new 3d wii u mario info yet, i would like to point out that this is not even close to the end of what they are announcing. they still will be having several more nintendo directs over the next few days that will be going over a lot more games, including 3rd party games (like watchdogs and batman arkham origins)
Sony will offer X services to get you to buy games on their console. Microsoft will offer Y services. And Nintendo will offer Z services. It won't be the console exclusives that sell consoles, it will be the service and quality that each company provides.
I'm thinking from a consumer perspective btw. I have the wierd tick that people don't seem to share in that I am 100% consumer focused.
It puts the power in the hands of consumers, rather than the hands of the console creators. But I guess that's a bad thing...
Last edited by Edge-; 2013-06-12 at 03:40 AM.
I dont want Sony or Microsoft having any decisions over a Nintendo game.
Im sorry, but Mario's hat SHOULD NOT BE A DLC!
Last edited by GennGreymane; 2013-06-12 at 03:42 AM.
Lawyer in training
Nintendo has almost no DLCs you actually get the full game when its out. You dont shell out another 20 for something they cut out and made into a DLC
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Primary established? Im sorry but the Xbox one is hardly primary.
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Can't speak for MS... but at this point I'd be willing to put money that Sony would walk up to Nintendo and say "We want you to make games for PS4... tell us what you want from us in terms of development and we'll give it to you TEN FOLD! You make your games... we'll just be on support duty!"
I do wish they'd let me just use a normal controller, but if they actually increased the number of games that I wanted to play, I'd rather buy from Nintendo than Sony or Microsoft.
As for your second point, the PS2 wasn't significantly behind Gamecube/360. There's nothing wrong with being the weakest console, but there's a problem with being a generation behind. If PS2 had N64 graphics during that generation then I could see your argument making a semblance of sense. PS2 also had something called "games". Sorry but nice try. Anyone who legitimately thinks Nintendo not having the same third party content as Xbox and PS4 is fine is straight up in denial. There would literally be no negative side to that. It's too late now, though. They've sealed their fate. Nintendo will be successful with young children and anime fans, but that's where it ends.
Last edited by Delevicton; 2013-06-12 at 03:48 AM.
Know what other console didn't sell well at launch but has come around to be a spectacular device? PS3.
So the 3DS is now on the right track and is making a ton of money. The PS3 showed that it's possible to do well after a weak start. But because Nintendo has had a single bad year they should leave the hardware business?
I don't understand a single ounce of that logic. Like, not a single ounce of it.
Unless the WiiU is a fail of MASSIVE proportions, they're not going down anytime soon. Last generation they were DOMINANT with Wii sales. Doesn't matter that those sales were to casual players: money is money, and the money they got isn't saying "hey let's stop doing consoles." To be honest, they could probably release consoles that don't sell well every generation and still do well solely based off their handheld sales.
And why is this argument never directed at Sony? I loved the PSP, but the Vita is almost WORSE off than the WiiU. Where are the cries for Sony to stop making hardware and go software only? They have an equally underperforming piece of hardware