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    couple of last minute changes apparently:

    - Hellfire's damage has been reduced by 20%.
    - Immolation Aura's damage has been reduced by 20%.

    - Incinerate's damage has been increased by 10%.

    were the only ones I could find. looks like destro is looking up as our offspec for add-burst fights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loom View Post
    couple of last minute changes apparently:

    - Hellfire's damage has been reduced by 20%.
    - Immolation Aura's damage has been reduced by 20%.

    - Incinerate's damage has been increased by 10%.

    were the only ones I could find. looks like destro is looking up as our offspec for add-burst fights?
    What the fuck WHY why would they do that to demo

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    Whoops should have posted here instead of making a new thread.

    Also saw this:
    Demonic Gateways are no longer attackable once more and no longer temporarily removes threat from the user. The debuff from using a Demonic Gateway has been increased to 60 seconds (up from 15 seconds).

    So Demonic Gateway is no longer a threat drop.
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    I guess it makes them more attractive for tanks? That's all I got. /shrug

    It's not a proper patch cycle without 11th hour Warlock nerfs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvreliaGaming View Post
    Neither of which provide any real use for a raid.
    And herein lies the problem why mages always complain that they will be sat if they get nerfs. They only bring damage and if that damage is poor, they get sat and replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loom View Post
    couple of last minute changes apparently:

    - Hellfire's damage has been reduced by 20%.
    - Immolation Aura's damage has been reduced by 20%.

    - Incinerate's damage has been increased by 10%.

    were the only ones I could find. looks like destro is looking up as our offspec for add-burst fights?
    Be honest, did anyone here not really expect a stealth or a quick nerf the night before the patch?

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    Its technically a stealth buff if you play destro ;p

  7. #3887
    Rofl they nerf demo's AoE but leave Ele's insane AoE untouched......................sounds legit.

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    At least Destruction is slightly more viable

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    Does the buff to incinerate mean that fel flame won't be a part of the rotation other then moving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truewiley View Post
    Does the buff to incinerate mean that fel flame won't be a part of the rotation other then moving?
    Maybe. It depends on if the extra damage will outweigh the increased ember generation from FF.

    It's at the very least a buff to AoE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xorn View Post
    Maybe. It depends on if the extra damage will outweigh the increased ember generation from FF.

    It's at the very least a buff to AoE
    Yea, definitely solidifies my offspec for the "aoe" fights along with the nerf to demo aoe

  12. #3892
    So basically Destro for Galakras/Spoils/Maybe Garrosh and Aff for everything else?

  13. #3893
    I guess using the portal for the Kanrethad fight is out the window for people who haven't done it yet.

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    they say never go to bed angry.... what am i supposed to do now....

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    Demo will still be strong on Galakras...those 60 sec dooms on multiple long lived adds will be nice. Plus the fact its just supremely mobile is a strong perk for progression consistency. Spoils may be nicer as destro. My gut is that Garrosh is one where attrition is a bigger problem than add damage...almost positive it will be heroic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexotic View Post
    they say never go to bed angry.... what am i supposed to do now....
    Call customer support and make up with them.

    Also I will say it again: what do you mean off-spec, Affliction all the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasofrass View Post
    On PTR, Haunt is still giving 45% damage buff to DoTs although the notes say 40%. Hmm.
    Just a tooltip Error. Its 40%. I checked it naked on a dummy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werst View Post
    Demo will still be strong on Galakras...those 60 sec dooms on multiple long lived adds will be nice. Plus the fact its just supremely mobile is a strong perk for progression consistency. Spoils may be nicer as destro. My gut is that Garrosh is one where attrition is a bigger problem than add damage...almost positive it will be heroic.
    Long living adds?
    Most the waves die within 30 secons even on Heroic.
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    lol just changed my off-spec to demo yesterday bcoz i figured destro wouldnt get any of the buffs they needed and then this happens, now ill prolly change back to destro, atleast they made shit simple, afflic for like 9-10 fights and destro for the last 4. also im at 9800 haste and 13,4k mastery, should atleast work decently for those fights where ill dust off the old destro spec.
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