1. #3321
    BRING FORTH THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS!
    Last edited by Narwhalosh Whalescream; 2013-08-26 at 06:58 PM. Reason: Torches and pitchforks always works

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    There will be a buff of some sort because they have to at the least make up for the ROF change, just hopefully there is a lot of buffs when that box opens.

  3. #3323
    Quote Originally Posted by AjayxD View Post
    There will be a buff of some sort because they have to at the least make up for the ROF change, just hopefully there is a lot of buffs when that box opens.
    Feels like they are going to "Meh one spec in the thrashbin, who cares"
    Sigh
    Send alot of twitter posts etc, ptr forums, feedback etc
    Need every little bit(<--Did you see what i did there?) we can get
    Last edited by Narwhalosh Whalescream; 2013-08-26 at 07:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AjayxD View Post
    Not being mean, but to much facepalm in that comment, ye your spec is ok on 25% of the tier.
    More than the worst spec of the other pure classes can claim...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im a internet troll View Post
    Feels like they are going to "Meh one spec in the thrashbin, who cares"
    Sadly, I kinda agree. I'm assuming they see the fights where mechanics lend themselves to Shadowburn snipes and RoFing embers for ST dmg, and say 'well, if we fix destro damage on the rest of the fights, Destro will be OP here.' and just call it balanced. Ideally that wouldn't be the case, but I doubt Bliz cares that much when the dmg numbers wouldn't impact LFR/Flex/Normal at all, and the vast majority semi-hardcore progression locks will just play the best spec per encounter anyway.

    Tbf, I get that class balancing is tricky to say the least, but they also have only themselves to blame when they give us weird ways to gimmick dps on certain fight styles.

  6. #3326
    Quote Originally Posted by Im a internet troll View Post
    Feels like they are going to "Meh one spec in the thrashbin, who cares"
    Sigh
    Send alot of twitter posts etc, ptr forums, feedback etc
    Need every little bit(<--Did you see what i did there?) we can get
    Pretty much this, I bet when people finally complain about destruction enough and they buff it to be a little better than mediocre they start nerfing affliction. Because thats how blizzard does an awesome job at balancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gohzerlock View Post
    Pretty much this, I bet when people finally complain about destruction enough and they buff it to be a little better than mediocre they start nerfing affliction. Because thats how blizzard does an awesome job at balancing.
    Dont give them any ideas

  8. #3328
    i dont think they will do much tbh by the looks of it we will be forced in to 1 spec affliction , for me i dont like the spec much demo destro i like to play .
    i just dont see blizz pulling the fingers out of the **** and giveing the buffs we are in need of

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    @rendezvouswrama @holinka We're balancing around their DPS, not ember generation. Is the issue you're worried DPS is low or you like embers?
    First tweet on Destro for ages, cryptic as always. Not sure how to understand the "We're balancing around their DPS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumzumzum View Post
    First tweet on Destro for ages, cryptic as always. Not sure how to understand the "We're balancing around their DPS"
    Presumably, the Destro dps is still fine (by dev standards) even if ember generation is low? Could be missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumzumzum View Post
    First tweet on Destro for ages, cryptic as always. Not sure how to understand the "We're balancing around their DPS"
    They mean they will change damage straight up if anything, not add ember generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumzumzum View Post
    First tweet on Destro for ages, cryptic as always. Not sure how to understand the "We're balancing around their DPS"
    It means looking at YOUR logs, then you are screwed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumzumzum View Post
    First tweet on Destro for ages, cryptic as always. Not sure how to understand the "We're balancing around their DPS"
    Responded in that thread. I have more I want to say but those are my two main concerns at this point. :P

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    Tweet Thread: https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/372096399199834112

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    Responded in that thread. I have more I want to say but those are my two main concerns at this point. :P

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    Tweet Thread: https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...96399199834112
    Yeah I guess the time has come to voice our concerns loudly, now that he might have the slightest interest in Destro (well, enough to answer a tweet).

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    It's kinda sad that with all the reworks, they did forget to add some more uses for Embers for Destruction in general. A new DoT maybe, to replace the filler Chaos Bolts.


    When they removed Soul Shards and cut all of our skills off to make their 3 spec system, a lot of the classes interesting aspects kinda were flushed down the drain.


    Imagine Druids with only one form available. That's how it feels.

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    https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...73224785616896

    Any source or data we can look at for Destro DPS being low on PTR?
    He responded to me, but I don't have much of any logs for destruction on single target because it was low to be testing on.

  17. #3337
    Fuck, that thread is getting hijacked by Maelstrom Weapon / resource discussion.

    By hijacked I mean two tweets
    I am the one who knocks ... because I need your permission to enter.

  18. #3338
    Quote Originally Posted by sasofrass View Post
    https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...73224785616896
    He responded to me, but I don't have much of any logs for destruction on single target because it was low to be testing on.
    I linked some stuff from Live. H25 IQ, H25 Twins, H25 JiKun - all parses, 2 mo timespan. All basically ST fights and all bottom of the barrel for Destro. PTR numbers should be even lower.

    http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Ji-Kun/25...14/60/default/

    http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Twin_Cons...14/60/default/

    http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Iron_Qon/...14/60/default/

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    Screw affli and screw demon, no destru love means no more wow for me till expansion, simple as that ><

    Guess I´ll kill Garrosh next expansion, save some money and live my life without worries

    But I´am sure some kind of "buffs" will be deployed next on the PTR, I still have faith (Hunter buffs came, so will the destru buffs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeadott View Post
    I linked some stuff from Live. H25 IQ, H25 Twins, H25 JiKun - all parses, 2 mo timespan. All basically ST fights and all bottom of the barrel for Destro. PTR numbers should be even lower.

    http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Ji-Kun/25...14/60/default/

    http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Twin_Cons...14/60/default/

    http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Iron_Qon/...14/60/default/
    Not meaning to sound bad, but to the average viewer what you just said is simply just a theory and sounds... well, a bit childish. Linking ToT logs then saying "See these? Well, 5.4 will be lower." without actually giving the conclusive evidence to back up the claims just isn't going to hold much weight to the matter. What should be shown are SoO logs from those who have them from the PTR to show where Destro is at. Yeah, GC should already know 10% to immo won't help squat and the spec suffers from horrible scaling issues and such, but treat him like an idiot and show him exactly what he wants for 5.4 numbers. They have their own internal testings (hi2u2 WW Monk blind idiocies) which hardly reflects Live. Even Simcraft rarely reflects the true state of dps and I'd consider that more accurate than blizz (which isn't saying much lulz).

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