Dark#1458 for warrior help.
IT IS FRIEND NOT FIEND.
Trinkets have been updated:
dps - http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=145991
dbts, RC, shatter, shield wall, reck + skull banner
tank - http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=145992
last stand, RC, shield wall, reck + skull banner, mocking banner
Currently the listed modifier is -11%, but that's still not set in stone.
Arms has some super bad scaling problems in pve, everything about that specc stays and falls with the weapon and nothing else really matters with no real cooldown phase outside of reck'd executes.
at what point during cata was arms the #1 pve dps spec in game?your saying arms was good in pve in cata right?tell me when that was?
raiding ORG is the last raid in mop right?im not sure because i never pve all that much,but i do know when you kill the end game boss that means end of x-pac.
Hmm its really bad if they add skull banner to it. Well they kinda have to, because its somewhat tied to recklessness, but that pushes us even more towards being a buff bitch class...On the other hand its a good reason to get that trinket first...
Currently (push 5.4.0 - 17161) the tanking trinket nets "20% increased cooldown recovery rate" resulting in 2.5 minutes last stand, RC, reck, mocking and skull banner and 1.67 minutes on shield wall.
The dps trinket is still labeled "39% increased cooldown recovery rate" resulting in 2.16 minutes on reck, RC, shield wall and skull banner. DBTS is down to 1.44 minutes and shatter has a 3.6 minutes cooldown.
If you have both equipped and change between roles it can happen that it shows an even lower number on the tooltip. That's only because it hasn't been updated, unequip the trinkets will solve it (and the reduction doesn't take place in the first place, sadly ).
Currently you're only sitting at close to 50% crit raidbuffed with a single Gaze procc and BiS TG gear, so you probably want to close that gap w/o proccs (that's still almost 4k crit rating to go) and start to work on mastery afterwards. Which should be even more interesting with http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=102305 - and reck is still useful for everything else, so having it avaible more often shouldn't hurt that much, should it?
I think we should discuss the present and the future and just forget about the past.
Anyhow, they need to buff arms warrior single target damage, from both PVE and PVP perspectives, i would thumbs up this idea.
Yes, Arms is in a bad spot right now in PvE.
No, Arms was not bad in Dragon Soul. So yes, you're wrong. The only melee that was consistently better were Rogues with legendaries. No one claimed Arms was the #1 best PvE dps period in DS, stop fixating on something absurd (in fact, you're the only one who has said anything about "#1 pve dps spec in game")
PvP - I don't care / know. I haven't found PvP enjoyable for a loooong time so I don't participate in it and I leave PvP-related discussions to those who are more experienced in that department. So, I haven't said boo-diddly about Arms in PvP, nor am I likely to.
Again... why are we discussing about the past? why is there a need to reference something from the past? whats going on in the future needs to be our concern.
And FYI: its like saying you got gladiator at S10 or w/e season (although this as nothing to do what is being discussed, but needs to be mentioned) but who cares? it was ALOT different back then, and trying to reference something from the past to support your argument makes it invalid.
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Our damage is so bad we need our critical strikes to make up for this dmg and the enrage procs but unfortunately the enrage effect lasts for 6 seconds.
Last edited by Beefkow; 2013-07-06 at 07:02 PM.
But anyway, back to topic: next tier leaves arms warrior with some options, we're crit capped on overpower and depending on the strength of the new trinkets (and if they'll really have an ICD instead of RPPM) we could go full haste (beyond 35% crit). Recent Simcraft already put haste second only behind crit mostly thanks to feather. And if we look at all the changes to slam Blizzard also sees that something is not right with that ability in particular, maybe they can make it work in some future pushes. Currently it's DPE is okay, but DPR and DPET are still horrible. Add overpowers cooldown reduction on mortal strike ... But i still don't like the idea of capping TfB stacks during a period of cooldowns/lots of incoming rage/several cs proccs, maybe it could also reduce slams rage cost or something like that in exchange for a charge.