1. #2041
    Thanks for the answers!!

    I also prefer to use the tanking cloak because it "safely" allows me to play recklessly.. I wont switch it anytime soon, even on farm bosses. The tanking meta gem is awesome and I wont throw it away for some DPS boost.

    I will try using BB more often on my next raid. As the main tank, I'm flooded with huge Vengeance pools and indeed the BB might perform better.

    Thanks again!

  2. #2042
    Quote Originally Posted by klausistklaus View Post
    And for the dps cloak: don't forget that you give away about 1%-riposte crit in exchange, so it's quite a bit less damage gain than shown in the log. +if somebody screws up (either you or your external cooldown giver) it saves a battleress, maybe even the whole raid. Just looking at a rather mediocre raid tonight i still got one procc during the 'all kills', last week the same. And it allows me to play more recklessly, knowing that i've "one extra life" if necessary.
    1280.25 crit rating if you reforge to dodge and use an avoidance gem. If you don't reforge to dodge, it's only 983.25 crit

    991 crit + gem on the DPS cloak.

    The difference is small. Very small.

  3. #2043
    Quick question, the 2p T16 is that a passive or does it only heal after you shield block or shield barrier something?

  4. #2044
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryce View Post
    Quick question, the 2p T16 is that a passive or does it only heal after you shield block or shield barrier something?
    It's passive, meaning you don't have to actively heal yourself. You get healed for a % of the damage absorbed/blocked every time you block/absorb using those abilities.

  5. #2045
    Quote Originally Posted by idefiler6 View Post
    It's passive, meaning you don't have to actively heal yourself. You get healed for a % of the damage absorbed/blocked every time you block/absorb using those abilities.
    Specifically, it's 30% of the damage absorbed by Shield Barrier or Shield Block.

    So if you absorb/block 100,000 damage, you'll get a nifty 30,000 heal along with it.

  6. #2046
    Does the thok trinket 8-9% healing amplify our 2 set bonus Shield Guard healing too?

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    It amplifies crit heals. I'm not sure 2pc does crit.
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  8. #2048
    The 2p bonus does not crit.



  9. #2049
    Quote Originally Posted by Moussaka View Post
    It amplifies crit heals. I'm not sure 2pc does crit.
    Unfortunately they nerfed that from PTR. It was OP.

  10. #2050
    Please remember, stacking dodge above 15% is a waste, due to DR. Don't go full Re***d when gemming your gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gliff View Post
    Unfortunately they nerfed that from PTR. It was OP.
    That wasn't the OP part.. It could never crit o.o Instead, it healed for the total amount without you needed to take the dmg first. Which they've fixed.

  11. #2051
    Quote Originally Posted by Kettlewow View Post
    Please remember, stacking dodge above 15% is a waste, due to DR. Don't go full Re***d when gemming your gear.

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    That wasn't the OP part.. It could never crit o.o Instead, it healed for the total amount without you needed to take the dmg first. Which they've fixed.
    Heal without needing to take the damage first? huh?

    Yes it could crit on PTR. My original BIS set included Iron Jugg trinket and Thokk trinket with 2-set. The self healing was retarded how high it was.

  12. #2052
    Quote Originally Posted by Kettlewow View Post
    Please remember, stacking dodge above 15% is a waste, due to DR. Don't go full Re***d when gemming your gear.
    At ilvl 581 gear (full heroic warforged minus 2 piece) the difference between even dodge & parry rating and favoring parry by 0.01 stat weights (shifting about 6.000 secondary stats around) is 0.04% gained avoidance favoring even ratings. But due to the HR glyph it's just better to ignore all that and go full parry.
    And this remains true while lowering gear levels, ie at 563 (full normal mode+cloak) the difference is 0.07% avoidance gained while favoring even ratings. DR was never an issue there.

    If you're using AMR i'd just use the regular settings and change one number:

    Parry rating from 0.9 to 0.91 and almost everything is just fine (except for maybe the gloves enchant suggestion, i still prefer mastery over stamina there but that's just me). You'll end up below your mentioned 15% dodge even in the best gear but that still looks like an arbitrary number to me to be honest because it's different when you're a nightelf.
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  13. #2053
    Quote Originally Posted by klausistklaus View Post
    At ilvl 581 gear (full heroic warforged minus 2 piece) the difference between even dodge & parry rating and favoring parry by 0.01 stat weights (shifting about 6.000 secondary stats around) is 0.04% gained avoidance favoring even ratings. But due to the HR glyph it's just better to ignore all that and go full parry.
    And this remains true while lowering gear levels, ie at 563 (full normal mode+cloak) the difference is 0.07% avoidance gained while favoring even ratings. DR was never an issue there.

    If you're using AMR i'd just use the regular settings and change one number:

    Parry rating from 0.9 to 0.91 and almost everything is just fine (except for maybe the gloves enchant suggestion, i still prefer mastery over stamina there but that's just me). You'll end up below your mentioned 15% dodge even in the best gear but that still looks like an arbitrary number to me to be honest because it's different when you're a nightelf.
    Or just put stamina to 0.8 like i always do since i don't need stamina enchants or gems at my gear level. And i usually leave parry at 0.9 and lower dodge to 0.89, but that's just preference

  14. #2054
    As far as Mastery or Stam for Gloves... Go Expertise. Should allow you to gain more avoidance through reforging.

  15. #2055
    Quote Originally Posted by Gliff View Post
    Heal without needing to take the damage first? huh?

    Yes it could crit on PTR. My original BIS set included Iron Jugg trinket and Thokk trinket with 2-set. The self healing was retarded how high it was.
    I think he means that it healed before the damage hit. Although that didn't made it OP, it made it far worse, since it made it overheal far more often than it should.

    PD: Always full parry bitches.

  16. #2056
    How good is prot warrior for solo tank heroic garrosh in 10man? We are planning on solo tanking him so as to get only one intermission in p2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archkiller View Post
    How good is prot warrior for solo tank heroic garrosh in 10man? We are planning on solo tanking him so as to get only one intermission in p2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archkiller View Post
    How good is prot warrior for solo tank heroic garrosh in 10man? We are planning on solo tanking him so as to get only one intermission in p2.

    We're the best class for it, I'd say. Maybe Monks or Paladins could compete, but our burst AoE is also better.

  19. #2059
    Hard to tell best to worst but i'd rank paladin above warrior for a 1/1/8 strategy (EF ticks between each dottick, it's hilarious they simply can't die) and warrior above paladin for a 1/2/7 approach (more dps especially if you manage to bring a fistweaver along your smiting priest and warrior just aren't that self supporting after all). Heck there're even some guardian druid logs out there and those should be the worst solo tank (due to how their AM work), just bring your best players and keep on pushing

  20. #2060
    Just got to 10H Nazgrim last night. I'm popping a 60 rage SBar and small dmg reduction CD (Demo Shout) for each execute. This is the way to handle it, yes?

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