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  1. #941
    guys, the sheet is not working, anyone can check it please.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...jYk52akE#gid=0

  2. #942
    Quote Originally Posted by eddytheone View Post
    If you switch from Mastery to Dodge including gems / enchants / reforges you can expect to gain around 10-20% DPS
    What's the deal with dodge these days anyway? at what point is dodge better than parry? i currently have somewhere around 34% parry and 12'ish % dodge. At what point will dodge dr itself too heavily for it to be worth geting more parry again. I'm currently testing the avoidance (hit2500>exp5200>parry>dodge>mastery) build for maximizing riposte gains.

    sorry if this has been answered already in this thread, but 48 pages is a tad too much to crawl through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGit View Post
    What's the deal with dodge these days anyway? at what point is dodge better than parry? i currently have somewhere around 34% parry and 12'ish % dodge. At what point will dodge dr itself too heavily for it to be worth geting more parry again. I'm currently testing the avoidance (hit2500>exp5200>parry>dodge>mastery) build for maximizing riposte gains.

    sorry if this has been answered already in this thread, but 48 pages is a tad too much to crawl through.
    Dodge is better than parry when you have more parry rating than dodge

    You want to try keep them equal to avoid diminishing returns, the strength you get off gear keeps Parry a few % above dodge anyway which is what you want to be aiming for

  4. #944
    oh lordie, i've got some reforging to do then. I was under the impression that the DR on dodge was a lot heavier than it is on parry. ie a 320 parry gem at 5000 rating would provide more actual avoidance than 320 dodge gem at 5000 rating.
    Last edited by aGit; 2013-09-23 at 10:45 PM. Reason: accidentally a word

  5. #945
    Quote Originally Posted by sirmo7 View Post
    guys, the sheet is not working, anyone can check it please.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...jYk52akE#gid=0
    PM Muuku and let him know what the issue is.

  6. #946
    Made some changes to secure spreadsheet.
    Should now work again.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Tehpounderer View Post
    Yes, indeed, something is broken. It only runs the actions once it appears, so this is what would happen if you just sat there auto-attacking the boss.
    This is what I provided the SimC team, try that instead...

    This is an easier normal rotation action list and should give a better result:
    actions.normal_rotation=/heroic_strike,if=buff.ultimatum.up
    actions.normal_rotation+=/shield_block
    actions.normal_rotation+=/shield_barrier,if=incoming_damage_1500ms>health.max*0.3|rage>rage.max-20
    actions.normal_rotation+=/shield_slam
    actions.normal_rotation+=/revenge
    actions.normal_rotation+=/thunder_clap,if=target.debuff.weakened_blows.down
    actions.normal_rotation+=/demoralizing_shout
    actions.normal_rotation+=/battle_shout,if=rage<=rage.max-20
    actions.normal_rotation+=/devastate

    Can someone counter check it?
    Ends for me in 303912 dps, 48147 dtps, 1866.3 TMI against T16Q.

  7. #947
    Quote Originally Posted by Muuku View Post
    Made some changes to secure spreadsheet.
    Should now work again.
    I like the way you compute some cells. "B4/951.1586+(B5-B4)/951.1586" in the C20 formula.

    Anyway, now that the spreadsheet works again, I'll put it back in the "useful link" sticky. We removed it some days ago but forgot to contact you.
    Warrior soloing spreadsheet.

    Ittle Dew (Any%): 12:13
    Super Meat Boy (Any%): 21:50

  8. #948
    Oem, it’s all about to look more like rocket science

  9. #949
    September 23 hotfixes:

    10% nerf to BwM

    25% nerf to Eternal flame

    75% reduction for DPS cloak to proc for tanks (I know some of you wont be happy about this but I have been wanting them to make it so we cant even use the DPS cloak)

    It's like Christmas. We may have just taken over #1 with that 10% nerf to Monks.

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    Yeah the DPS Melee one already had a 75% reduced chance but the other two didn't and I'm assuming that due to paladins SP scaling with AP that it was making for some crazy numbers when they would use the cloaks either in terms of healing or DPS

  11. #951
    Paladins used it for tanking, haste stamina and a crazy proc, what else do you need? :P

  12. #952
    Another item change
    Evil Eye of Galakras was only reducing the cooldown on 5 abilities for Warriors. The trinket should now also reduce the cooldown of Heroic Leap.
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  13. #953
    Eddy, sorry about that report taking long, I'll post a decent one whenever possible, and also: completely regemmed and I cannot "tank" (bad pun :P) you enough.

    The difference on survivability, rage generation, damage and oh man, those shield barriers... is just astounding.

    I'm glad I never gave up tanking on my warrior, now is not just fun, is mad fun!

    Thanks again.

  14. #954
    Quote Originally Posted by Gliff View Post
    September 23 hotfixes:

    10% nerf to BwM

    25% nerf to Eternal flame

    75% reduction for DPS cloak to proc for tanks (I know some of you wont be happy about this but I have been wanting them to make it so we cant even use the DPS cloak)

    It's like Christmas. We may have just taken over #1 with that 10% nerf to Monks.
    Some may call it "Schadenfreude" :P - but looking at average logs it really seems justified.

  15. #955
    Quote Originally Posted by Manager View Post
    Only talks about the intellect caster and spirit healer cloak. Guessing they meant the melee one as well, but there is a chance.
    Wow can't believe I misread that. I was thinking an additional 75%.

    Really pumped about the Heroic Leap reduction with the trinket.

  16. #956
    Anyone have info on the t16 4set bonus? How much rage it gains, is it per attack or based on damage you take and so on? Been trying to find anything about it but completely unsuccesful.

  17. #957
    Quote Originally Posted by Gliff View Post
    It's like Christmas. We may have just taken over #1 with that 10% nerf to Monks.
    Probably not quite yet but warriors are looking terribly strong this tier.

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  18. #958
    Quote Originally Posted by Pariah View Post
    Probably not quite yet but warriors are looking terribly strong this tier.
    I know this is not an exact science but take a look at the link below and take off 10% of their damage from fight to fight. They are pretty damn close to 2nd place and actually falling behind on some fights. (how sad is it that I am happy they are in 2nd place on SOME fights and 1st on the rest lol)

    http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Iron_...14/60/default/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gliff View Post

    Really pumped about the Heroic Leap reduction with the trinket.
    but does it work when we are in prot spec? From what I see it works for arms and fury wars but I don't see any of the reducers for prot. Just wondering as I got it for offset but if it works in prot spec may be some fun to be had with it!

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