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  1. #1481
    I made a review:
    the difference trying to maximize avoidance and dps is that talking about dps we have to consider the glyph of hold line.
    without it the best solution is to maximize avoidance: the swing reduction of the parry is sightly worse than a crit increase, if i crit 1 more shield slam i make 600k more dmg and 1 more revenge crit is 300k more dmg, etc!
    with that glyph, it's sure that parry is better, but the new question is how much? 3-4-5-10-20 % ? i'll investigate to take the exact value in this week

  2. #1482
    Hm.... what is better for the shredders on siegecrafter heroic?

    DR + SB (obviously precasting SB so it lands shortly after the shredder has landed again) or DR + BB?

  3. #1483
    In terms of using Shield Barrier vs. Shield block, I read somewhere recently that when using an avoidance based build it is typically better to focus on shield barrier and use excess rage in shield block. Is this theory correct? Thanks in advance.

  4. #1484
    Quote Originally Posted by ceejay View Post
    In terms of using Shield Barrier vs. Shield block, I read somewhere recently that when using an avoidance based build it is typically better to focus on shield barrier and use excess rage in shield block. Is this theory correct? Thanks in advance.
    I use the two abilities reactionary.
    If a single big hit is incoming, be it physical or magic; I use shield barrier. If a steady intake of blockable damage is incoming then I use shield block. At this state in the game I am swimming in rage so I tend to use as many shield blocks as the cooldown allows. And use shield barrier to prevent myself from capping. Unless there is a big hit incoming then I want a full barrier for that obviously.

    What I aim for is to have as much shield block uptime as possibly to benefit the most of the Heavy Repercussions glyph. Not only do I aim for a high uptime I also pay attention to cooldown of sheild block + Shield Slam to make sure that when I use Shield Slam it will benefit from the glyph.


    Basicly what you want to do as a tank is to smooth out the damage intake. With high levels of avoidance its really hard to predict any kind of dmg intake except for magic dots and big magic hits. As an example you could theoretically pop a full 60 rage barrier and see yourself dodge/parry several attacsk in a row and competely see it go to waste. A shield block would have been more useful in that case due to some extra damage from shield slam even though it didnt really block anything.
    Therefor I personally tend to use alot more Shield blocks than Shield barriers.

  5. #1485
    guys, is it worth to use dps back and gem?

    10m normal raiding atm 562 ilvl

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    Quote Originally Posted by meteo View Post
    Hm.... what is better for the shredders on siegecrafter heroic?

    DR + SB (obviously precasting SB so it lands shortly after the shredder has landed again) or DR + BB?
    I was using DR+BB, it just melted away, even killed it with 2 stacks and no blades, loving those 4-5 million shieldslams

    Speaking of siegecrafter heroic, i noticed something strange, consistently the 3rd application of electrostatic doesn't seem todo any damage at all.
    Any ideas why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by santa666 View Post
    I was using DR+BB, it just melted away, even killed it with 2 stacks and no blades, loving those 4-5 million shieldslams

    Speaking of siegecrafter heroic, i noticed something strange, consistently the 3rd application of electrostatic doesn't seem todo any damage at all.
    Any ideas why ?
    not using cds and getting cloak proc? all I could think of

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebubble View Post
    not using cds and getting cloak proc? all I could think of
    I was always using demo shout and ~450k barriers, didnt touch the barrier and no cloak animation(dont really track it tbh :x)
    Even tried no cd's, no barrier. Still no dmg.
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/q...pes&boss=71504

    Not really that good with analyzing logs but it kills me not knowing whats up with that 3rd stack.

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    I must admit I've had similar happen to me... I didn't check the absorbs at the time but I've been occasionally getting full hits without the bigwigs warning noise goin goff to indicate it applied but having my debuff refreshed and apparently no damage being taken

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    Yeh, and it was freakishly consistent for over 60 pulls, the last hour today i didnt even bother with cd's or barrier for it.
    Didn't check with my OT but i started tanking it was always the 3rd stack.
    All the others did their intended damage far as i could tell.

  11. #1491
    Quote Originally Posted by santa666 View Post
    Yeh, and it was freakishly consistent for over 60 pulls, the last hour today i didnt even bother with cd's or barrier for it.
    Didn't check with my OT but i started tanking it was always the 3rd stack.
    All the others did their intended damage far as i could tell.
    Same here, although sometimes the third DID deal damage, sadly we're not getting much further into the fight at the moment so I'm not sure if it would go for other stacks aswell :P Absolutely no idea what's going on though when it doesnt deal damage.
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  12. #1492
    Foxlit just released an addon that has quite amazing potential.

    http://townlong-yak.com/purrmetheus/

    Purrmetheus is an addon that can dynamically choose which ability to perform when you click an action button.
    Just watch the video. Basically you can create a conditional one-button macro with the help of this addon. Mind blown.
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    This will most definitely be broken as blizzard truly hates these sorts of addons :P I don't know how many ancient players there are out there but in vanilla there used to be an addon called AutoRogue that would basically have your entire rotation bound to sinister strike and conditionally reapply poisons / slice and dice based on buffs

    Don't get used to using this addon because it WILL be intentionally broken by blizzard, mark my words :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddytheone View Post
    This will most definitely be broken as blizzard truly hates these sorts of addons :P I don't know how many ancient players there are out there but in vanilla there used to be an addon called AutoRogue that would basically have your entire rotation bound to sinister strike and conditionally reapply poisons / slice and dice based on buffs

    Don't get used to using this addon because it WILL be intentionally broken by blizzard, mark my words :P
    Yup, expect it to be destroyed by the next hotfix or 2. Remember that addon that came out in Wrath? Where you could mark spots on the floor and see where Putricides poo bombs would land and all that jazz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by idefiler6 View Post
    Yup, expect it to be destroyed by the next hotfix or 2. Remember that addon that came out in Wrath? Where you could mark spots on the floor and see where Putricides poo bombs would land and all that jazz?

    AVR *Glazed eyes*

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddytheone View Post
    AVR *Glazed eyes*
    Yes, that was it!

    At any rate, I think anyone who uses this addon that zorker linked could face a ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idefiler6 View Post
    Yup, expect it to be destroyed by the next hotfix or 2. Remember that addon that came out in Wrath? Where you could mark spots on the floor and see where Putricides poo bombs would land and all that jazz?
    *sniff* Only the good die young



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    Quote Originally Posted by idefiler6 View Post
    Yes, that was it!

    At any rate, I think anyone who uses this addon that zorker linked could face a ban.
    No ban. Its completely in the rules until they break it.

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    Hello fellow warrior tanks. Started playing Prot Warrior for the first time ever like two weeks ago when our guild's OT had to take absent from raiding.

    I have few questions for you, I am atm going for full avoidance build. We are 12/14 norm SoO and will be starting HC SoO next week. So how much HP should I have, my HP is shit atm because of shitty gear + pure avoidance. Blackfuse wasnt nice even in normal with this iLvL Should I gem STAM because my HP pool is so low.

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Hikkyys/simple

    Also would you suggest Avoidance or mastery/crit for HC 10 SoO ? I personally like more going pure avoidance in conjunction with SBar.



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    Hey there,

    With Garrosh going down this week (should've been last :/ ) I'm joining a new guild on my prot warrior alt to occupy my time. They're currently 11/14H (10) with siegecrafter just about to go down. I was looking to hear if you had any tips for these bosses from a warrior pov. Such as certain glyphs that feels like a must for certain fights. I'm well aware of all the mechanichs as I tank on the main but class-specifics would be nice.

    Thanks in advance!

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    I'm still progressing on him but glyph wise i'm running with Thunderclap for some extra damage but I have been considering unending rage so you can easily put up two massive shield barriers in succession (but we've not really gotten to a part of the figth where what tanks do matter.... my raidmembers and not standing and fire and things... always been a bit of a bitch).

    Honestly doesn't really seem like there is some massive trick/tip for this fight for prot warriors. Some go with Stormbolt and precast it while the shredder is in the air but I haven't done that personally and just stick with BB & DR since that seems to work just fine.

    You want howl for slowing adds (imo) but that's about it for "must" glyphs/specs.

    (Im not even talking about heavy rep & revenge glyphs since those are always a must)
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