1. #1961
    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo View Post
    Why do you keep the boss during the assault anyway?
    I'd say taunt swap the moment he starts casting that shield bash to avoid that situation happening in the first place.
    ye i totally agree with you but that are the orders i get. so thats what i do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo33 View Post
    ye i totally agree with you but that are the orders i get. so thats what i do
    "If your orders were to jump off a cliff, would you do that too?" :P I tend to pop a Sblock + sbarrier (pool 120 rage) just before (the Sblock a few seconds before)..

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    I save shield wall for it and pop a barrier just before it hits, last stand + call for pain sup on the second one, usually don't get a third but if we do, I call for a taunt. There is no reason not to taunt swap each one, I just keep Prime in order to simplify things a bit.

    -Edit- Does anyone know if the human racial works on the stun?
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    I think bubble (and probably hand of protection) is the only thing that works. Human racial does not.
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    Hey guys. My guild are looking at Garrosh HC at the minute, I personally haven't had any tries on him yet.

    Just a quick question, Shockwave or Bladestorm? I can see more benefit from Shockwave but I see some videos of Bladestorm.

    Oh and can warrior do the iron star in final phase?

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    Only take Shockwave if your raid doesn't have the stuns required.

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    Anyone can do the ironstars in the last phase tbh. I would honestly suggest bladestorm for the fear immunity in terrace. Recently I've started running with Dragonroar and it seems to be working quite nicely as it allows me to use that tier of abilities during the burns as using Bladestorm during single target is a fairly large DPS loss
    While progressing though I would say there is no competition unless you have a lot of priests in the raid and can get 2+ fear wards in the Terrace phase and your adds DPS in the first phase is nice

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    Ironstars are 130% and you have to be the closest person since they instantly-update if someone else is closer than you. Ideally you'll have a rogue or a druid who could do it.

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    Hey guys, I am going to do challenge modes as a prot (did not play it since wotlk), and I have to obtain gear from scratch. So, for what stats should I go?
    1) Do i need expertise hardcap for challenges& (my guess is yes)
    2) Mastery>Avoidance for challenges? Or can I survive with crit gear?
    3) What trinkets should i obtain?
    Thanks in advance.

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    1) Yes. I'm still not sure if 15% or 12% is the way to go, though, since boss hardly matter in CMs.

    2) I'm PLing in my raid gear (well, I'll soon have to change some items, since I'm at ~9% hit now), so Parry>Dodge>Crit=Mastery is totally possible. If you're only going for golds, a Mastery build is probably good, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to lose too much dps for the sake of less spikiness. CMs tanking is about anticipating spikes anyway, so as long as you have a proper cooldown usage, I don't think Riposte build is really worse than Mastery build as far as survival is concerned.
    I wouldn't go as far as using a crit build, though. But I've never tried, may be worth a try.

    3) Stamina trinkets are extremely good in CMs. Relic of Niuzao, 5.0 vp (now jp) trinkets, MSP trinket, etc. I'm using my raid gear so I'm using the IJ trinket but I haven't paid attention to my self heal so far, probably not huge. But if you don't like playing with two stamina trinkets, it's probably one of the best non-stamina trinket available.
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    We are going for realm records, so I guess i need maximum dps, mastery then?

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    Pretty sure mastery is the last stat you want if you're going for more dps.
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    Ah well, we raid 10 and can't reliably cover the stuns/interupts so looks like I'm with Shockwave!

    Thanks for the replies guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjl View Post
    We are going for realm records, so I guess i need maximum dps, mastery then?
    Riposte build, then. Maybe even crit build.
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    If you are going for records why use a Prot warrior =s? A brewmaster will do significantly more DPS in most cases. If you do really want to use a warrior then I would suggest an avoidance build so that you don't keep having to reset due to being gibbed and messing up any really good runs you get, it will also (class depending) let your healer do some off-DPS as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddytheone View Post
    If you are going for records why use a Prot warrior =s?
    That hurt Eddy Thought you were one of 'us' ;'(

    Anyways, You can get realm records as a Prot Warrior, bare in mind, if you trying to beat a Brewmaster, Disc, Mage, Hunter, Shaman, <Random> then you may as well just give up, its a stupid makeup and as Eddy said, they are just crazy as CM Tanks.

    Parry/Dodge are the two main stats you wanna take (High Damage, High Rage)
    Relic trinket with Shado-Pan DPS trinket (or a second Darkmoon Fair trinket, the DPS one)
    Engineering is a big, big plus! Blacksmithing and Leatherworking are great too.

    Other than that, best of luck dude
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    Good luck getting realm best times with a warrior tank.

    Go use a Monk or DK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lithix View Post
    that hurt eddy thought you were one of 'us' ;'(
    I'm sorry :'(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gliff View Post
    Good luck getting realm best times with a warrior tank.
    I've got 9/9 FoS on my warrior.
    Well, small server, but still. Warriors are really good since 5.4 in CMs. Not as godlike as monks, but still very powerful, probably the second best tanking class in CMs. (It was DKs before 5.4, but we have been buffed far more than them.)
    Depending on the best times set on his server, it may totally be doable with a warprot. Just slightly harder than with a monk.
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    We have pretty easy to beat records right now, so I think we can do it with prot warrior, Riposte build is maximum parry+dodge? Thanks, I'll start to look for gear then.

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