Went with RP instead of incite last night. I was pretty impressed. I didn't feel the need to be throwing useless demo shouts on tank switches and the damage is pretty awesome. Switched out for rude interruption on protectors and Noru. The damage you can do on those fights in particular with rude interruption is crazy.
Ok, i had the occasion to tank up to iron juggernaut yesterday evening.
Dps has gone up by a decent chunk, and it's fun to have all that rage available. First 4 bosses were pretty easy, i didn't have issues in tanking. Anyway at iron juggernaut i started to take a lor more damage and going for full avoidance gems cut down my HP a lot. Is it worth to get some stam+parry gems to boost up my survivability?
Also: with hevay avoidance builds Shield Barrier is worth more than Shield Block, right? Just to know if i did well or not. My warr can be an alt, but it's not an excuse to play it badly. I'm planning to do the flex runs with him so i can get decent gear to be useful in our normal raids.
Most of the time only by using base stamina from gear you should be fine. It changes depending on your gear. If you are not geared through ToT you may need some sort of stamina boost. Trinkets are best for getting a stamina boost.
Even when using Avoidance you should never miss a single shield block, unless you are taking no blockable damage at all. Shield Barrier is just a bonus that you can use in the 3sec timespan where you cannot block or if you swim in rage. Just keep in mind that your SS will hit 50% harder aswell and it hits like a truck already.
I personally put most of my rage into barrier on Heroic Iron Juggernaut. Getting full barriers for ever breath was pretty huge. The Monk i tank with was having to use diffuse magic (I think) to survive the 4th breath and Barrier alone kept me up just fine. At over 350k vengeance it's pretty sexy.
95% of the time 100% possible uptime on Block is the way to go.
I'm deciding between SBar/Sblock in the following way (even with an avoidance build):
x) "Generally" SBlock > SBarrier, unless...
-> Predictable heavy non-blockable damage incoming or
-> Very high vengeance level (always keep in mind that SBar scales with vengeance while SBlock doesnt) or
-> I'm sub 30%, no CD ready and the SBar may just buy the time to get me back up
So pretty much the same arguments zorker/Gliff already gave.
Last edited by Tseng; 2013-09-20 at 10:51 AM.
Ignoring the magic damage side of things (as that's a pretty obvious choice), you should be using block to smooth the damage and barrier for bigger bursts (Like attacks that hit hard and scale depending on your debuff). With the amount of rage you generate as a avoidance warrior you should be able to do both very easily. I used to have to plan ahead (Remember how rage starved Horridon felt?), now I find I have so much rage I almost forget to use it.
There's not really much more to it!
Hmmm. At which Vengeance level would you SBar > SB? Is it possible to reach 400k Vengeance anywhere?
I have a damage taken spreadsheet to compare block/barrier (sort of)
It uses the new 1.5% for Vengeance calculation formula.
So avg. 1,500,000 damage taken per second (unmitigated) would net your around 450k Vengeance.
If you can get your hands on Rook's Talisman, it performs extremely well on this encounter.
Hmmm. I just did some more calc stuff and found sth interesting.
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350k damage per 1.5seconds
3million damager per 1.5seconds
Once you surpass the Vengeance gained by stamina (for 50k stamina that is around 350,000 damage per 1.5 seconds) your absorbs will become nearly constant. In this example that is around 70k Vengeance.
Basically a simple 20 rage barrier transferrs into a flat 42% reduction (applied past armor/def stance).
A 40 rage barrier will reduce the damage by 84%.
A 60 rage barrier will reduce the damage by 126%. (Thus 26% of that are still available as absorb for the next hit)
Interestingly enough a crit block and a 60 rage barrier net you 186% reduction. Enough for two hits and since block lasts for a while it will last until the third hit you will receive.
Absorb formula used:
rageMultiplier for a 20 rage barrier is 20/60. For 40 rage barrier it is 40/60. For 60 rage barrier it is 60/60.Code:absorb = max((attackPower - 2 * strength) * 1.8, stamina * 2.5) * rageMultiplier
I'm new to warriors, only recently finished leveling my first one. I have a couple of questions if you could be so kind so help me out:
1. I don't really understand what a critical block is. Say I have 50% to critically block. Does that mean that, on average, half of my blocks will block twice as much as they normally would?
2. What gearing strategy is advisable at the moment for someone who is planning to do at most SoO normal? Hit/exp to caps, then mastery then avoidance stats? Does crit play any role in mitigation?
Mmm... if that's for calculating when Sbar > Sblock or viceversa, avoidance and mastery gearing have a very heavy value on it. Did a miss it on the cells? Also, whether the LGM has procced, and of course Demo Shout and Shield Wall have a heavy saying on which one will prevent more damage.
In the end, most of the times you grab two auras, one that tells you the total external absorbtion you have up, another that tells you how much of your Sbar have left. Then you ponder: do I have a good external+internal absorb? If yes, Sblock or sit on rage, if not: I'm going to die or drop significantly? If yes, Sbar it, if not, Sblock. You may end up entering a loop where you can't build enough rage for a Sblock and need to 20 rage SBar to survive, but it's your healers and CDs role to get you out of it.
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2) Devastate and Shield Slam crits gives you rage. Rage is mitigation, that's the role of crit in mitigation. If you tank normal, play with whatever you find fun. If you are used to mastery stack, try avoidance and see if you like it. Personally, I wouldn't tell anyone to pick avoidance after going heavy with mastery. They don't mix well, go crit after mastery (or before mastery) if you decide to gear that way.
Last edited by Espada; 2013-09-20 at 01:55 PM.