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  1. #901
    Quote Originally Posted by Gliff View Post
    Anyone got anything else or wanna add/correct anything?
    I was thinking it would be beneficial for less familiar warriors to understand how trinket slots and enchants tend to be overbudget for stam, while gems are overbudget for secondary stats. This might fall under the question "Q:Should I stack stamina?"

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    Also regarding Dodge/Parry ratio, it is ideal to shoot for 2:3. This can, in most cases simply be achieved by stacking parry in red slots and dodge in yellow. So think along the lines 10,000 Dodge rating and 15,000 Parry rating for this tier. In practice, it is difficult to swing the ratio far enough for it to make a significant difference (perhaps 0.5% total avoidance). I would mostly not bother with reforging from one to the other.

  2. #902
    Quote Originally Posted by Tehpounderer View Post
    I was thinking it would be beneficial for less familiar warriors to understand how trinket slots and enchants tend to be overbudget for stam, while gems are overbudget for secondary stats. This might fall under the question "Q:Should I stack stamina?"

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also regarding Dodge/Parry ratio, it is ideal to shoot for 2:3. This can, in most cases simply be achieved by stacking parry in red slots and dodge in yellow. So think along the lines 10,000 Dodge rating and 15,000 Parry rating for this tier. In practice, it is difficult to swing the ratio far enough for it to make a significant difference (perhaps 0.5% total avoidance). I would mostly not bother with reforging from one to the other.
    @Gliff: I'd add these as well. Trinkets/gem explanations are a good idea, and people are bound to ask whether parry/dodge need to be balanced.

    Should put something about Glyphs and talents in there as well, question is going to be asked sooner or later.

  3. #903
    Changed the original post to match what was included. I will add more / modify hopefully this weekend.

    Gliff, do you have a source for that spreadsheet you linked so I can give credit?

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  4. #904
    Quote Originally Posted by Pariah View Post
    Changed the original post to match what was included. I will add more / modify hopefully this weekend.

    Gliff, do you have a source for that spreadsheet you linked so I can give credit?
    No but it was someone from this thread.

  5. #905
    Hey Ho!
    This is my spreadsheet.

  6. #906
    Quote Originally Posted by Muuku View Post
    Hey Ho!
    This is my spreadsheet.
    Updated to reflect that!

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  7. #907
    What is the difference between going avoidance build as opposed to mastery build? Tanked Garrosh for our 25man kill this week and went avoidance, but i spiked a lot with a decent uptime on shield block.

  8. #908
    Quote Originally Posted by Moarkai View Post
    What is the difference between going avoidance build as opposed to mastery build? Tanked Garrosh for our 25man kill this week and went avoidance, but i spiked a lot with a decent uptime on shield block.
    Check the OP of this thread.

  9. #909
    Hey there, I main changed back to my warrior for this tier and I'm searching for the right path to take with my gemming/gearing. I had to take a break last tier for a few months so I'm behind on my cloak, but SOO has been very kind to our guild. I'm a 25H progression raider and my offtank is a monk with a DPS oriented build. Our healer core is generally weak with tank heals, so I've been following Slootbag's 80%-ish mastery gearing and I feel like my damage intake is extremely low (which is a good thing), however, I often have threat issues tanking with our monk because his damage output is so high. I would like to try the avoidance gearing strategy but I'm worried I'll be significantly more squishy. Right now I'm sitting at ilv555 w/o cloak, and only a Soul Barrier and the boots from Durumu left from TOT. Mostly, I'm looking for advice on which direction would be best for my situation. I would prefer to do more damage, simply because it's annoying having to chain taunts because our monk doesn't like to hold back immediately after aggro exchanges (before I can get vengeance). I'm good about intervenes for a small amount of vengeance as I'm about to taunt, but I can't keep up with a monk running dps meta and cloak.

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Neroz/advanced

    EDIT: Forgot to mention my alternate trinket options are: http://www.wowhead.com/item=94508, http://www.wowhead.com/item=94516, http://www.wowhead.com/item=96470
    I was trying the Juggernaut crystal to test it's healing, didn't seem to do very well for me though. Feather is 2/2 upgraded, rest are basic.
    Last edited by Taktheritrix; 2013-09-21 at 08:27 PM.

  10. #910
    Mastery build doesnt really offer anything offensively, so you're gonna have to change to avoidance gemming or tell your monk tank to chill. There are not many options really, just go ahead with the avoidance build. You take less hits, but they are bigger which you have to smooth out with Barrier, you get a lot more extra rage so once you get used to it, there shouldnt be any problems.

    If your healers are complaining just tell the monk is forcing you to gear avoidance and you have to learn. If he doesnt want to chill with the dps you cant do much else.

    Gem avoidance, start getting used to it and leave your troubles behind.

  11. #911
    If I post my armory would you guys mind looking at it and giving some pointers?

    I'd really appreciate it.

  12. #912
    Thanks for the input, I'll give it a shot for our next raid and see how it goes.

  13. #913
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiago View Post
    If I post my armory would you guys mind looking at it and giving some pointers?

    I'd really appreciate it.
    Of course = )

  14. #914
    Thanks Eddy, as soon as I'm out of rbgs I'll post it here.



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    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Tiago/advanced
    Last edited by Tiago; 2013-09-22 at 04:03 AM.

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    Hey there = )

    Basically I would say your char looks fine with the exception of gems in which I would strongly advise you to swap to avoidance ones as nothing really hits hard enough to warrant going stamina anymore and the gains you get from riposte in terms of DPS from avoidance gear are just too large to pass up

    You should see a noticeable increase in your DPS straight away and will give you much better total damage reduction provided your healers are comfortable with you losing a bit of health = )

    Talents-wise I would say they are fine and the enraged regeneration vs second wind is just honestly down to personal preference

    If you have any logs of you in combat that might also be useful

  16. #916
    Trinket Advice:

    Hey all,

    Firstly congrats to our new forum mods! Love the fact that 2 are Prot warriors, REAL warriors

    I was hoping to get some advice on which trinkets I should consider using for SoO 10 man normal modes (heroic raiding isnt likely for some time yet, very casual raid grp). I have had a look over a handful of different prot warriors from the forums to see what people are using before they manage to pick up some of the nice SoO tank trinkets (about time we got some decent tank trinkets). I haven't had too much luck with collecting trinkets this expac, as I started off as a Warlock, and swapped over to my Warrior to tank early ToT due to losing one of our tanks.

    My current trinkets are:
    Fortitude of the Zandalari - 530 ilvl
    Soul Barrier - 530 ilvl

    I also have in my bags:
    Brutal Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault - 522 ilvl
    Fabled Feather of Ji-Kun - 522 ilvl
    Gaze of the Twins - 522 ilvl
    Primordius' Talisman of Rage - 522 ilvl
    Lao-Chin's Liquid Courage - 489 ilvl

    I have noticed a number of 10 man tanks equipped with some of the DPS trinkets like Prims or Gaze, but I am unsure whether that is for raid purposes or simply doing dailies/5 mans/older content/etc. Is the crit gained from these trinkets worth more then the reforged parry/mastery from the fortitude trinket? (keeping in mind that most of the tanks I was looking at were all 550+ ilvl in gear)

    Here is a link to my armory if that will help
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...iosas/advanced

    Many thanks!

  17. #917
    Hopefully this is what you want, Eddy.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/1...?s=6366&e=6898

    Thanks for the help. I'll be switching gems accordingly.

  18. #918
    Hello, not sure if this is correct place for this question but couldn't find a "fix my tanking" thread like some of the other class forums have. I'm wondering how prot warriors approach Norushen's test of confidence. How do they deal with piercing corruption and burst of corruption? I read that hurl corruption can be reflected and with vengeance initially high from tanking the boss, warriors can kill the Titanic Corruption quickly. Is this the only way to pass the test?

  19. #919
    It's not the only way, if you last the whole minute (ie, you entered without vengeance), you clear the test successfully. Piercing Corruption can be blocked and avoided, but not absorbed. The burst can be absorbed, and yes, hurl can be reflected. If you have really bad luck and don't avoid enough piercings, just use ER, or last stand+ER if you entered half dead. There is no reason to die in there.

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    I have not been very active here during our progress in Sanitas. And yes, riposte with a bit more parry is what I felt most secure with. Love the new warrior, I completely skipped my monk for this tier as warriors have banner which is a pretty decent dps utility. With a little bit more parry and the glyph of Hold the Line, revenge is very very nice. I will report back later on when the progress isn't so stressful anymore! Sorry if this is blurry, I'm pretty tired !

    Big grats to Eddy and Clampy! Cheers guys

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