Quit trying to fix something that isn't broken.
why the hell do we need 1-5 threads a day, about fixing, something that isnt really broken. The current system work better than ANY frikking suggestion that come the last frikking years.
The next time i see a thread named "How to fix xxx" im gonna punch something in the bacon!!
There's an entire thread on the main page about how people are leaving due to LFR. It does need fixing.
Look at Blizzards latest investor call. They know that casual player interaction with the game is down, less new players are sticking with the game - that's clear to them from their data.
So while we have all this new endgame content, all designed for non-raiders, we see sub numbers drop because of casuals don't play this game for long. Casuals, who are the reason the raiding experience, which was once the prime endgame content in wow, was devalued completely.
And why would they stick around? New players come to WoW because of the gear progression and raiding. When they are luckey, they get full tier set in 1 (!!!) full run of lfr AND they get to see all bosses in 1 (!!!) full run of lfr! Why would they stick around?
It takes more time to level your pets to 25 and get the achievements.
It takes more time to farm mounts.
It takes more time to farm old gear for transmog.
It takes more time to get achievements.
It takes more time to climb up in Brawlers Guild ranks.
All of the above take more time then getting your epics and seeing the current endboss of raid content!
That is what's wrong and Blizzard knows this. They just opend this pandoras box in WotLK and took it to the extreme with lfr. Now they try to repair some damage in the community with /flex raiding, because besides completely devalueing their once prime endgame content, it also destroyed a lot of player interaction, the last there was necessary in this game (because lfd for 5mans and pvp already existed).
LFR needs to go and it will. It hinders the forming of the social aspect of the game, that's why people play an mmo in the first place. It will be made less and less attractive and then changed or patched out. LFR was wrong, it doesn't need fixing, it needs to go.
Best way to fix WoW is to go to the homes of everyone complaining about LFR/Flex/LFD/insert feature and just... break their hands. Now they can't log into WoW nor post their whinings. They get to be happy and move on with their lives by not playing a game that apparently upsets them.
Infracted; Don't troll (Sonnillon).
Seriously; guys like the OP would create more problems then they'd solve. Quit thinking you have any right to tell people how they "should" play the game and mind your own goddamn business.
Last edited by Sonnillon; 2013-06-13 at 08:24 AM.
It's not up for debate anymore. LFR destroyed the social aspect of the game, that's why lots of new players don't stick to the game.
All you who have no clue how exclusive content works in a online gaming environment and whant to break my hands (srsly wow, you truely make a good case of an antisocial behaviour we got with lfr) will lose this.
Simpler I think to get Blizzard to insert more direction messages in the raid a la DBM and less possibilities for abuse.
"Lei Shen is about to do this. Don't be in front of him."
Stuff like that.
Not only that but people who are interested would be more likely to learn what to do more quickly. Think of it like a DBM-style expansion of the Dungeon Journal. Just for LFR though.
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EDIT: Anyone who believes that LFR is going away is engaging in extremely wishful thinking.
Last edited by MoanaLisa; 2013-06-13 at 08:36 AM.
A bit of civility and respect for others opinions goes a long way toward getting any respect in return. Overly hostile, profane and insulting posts are a sign that people don't really have anything to say. Profanity is best served out in very small doses.
"Forum drama exists because people enjoy creating it." - ML/2013
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Obviously if players get stuck in the leveling process this topic is not about them? Raiding content matters a lot and by making it more exclusive then now it gives players a goal, something to thrive for. It's basic psychology or just simple understanding of how the human mind works.
Why don't we give all kids at school the best grades, no matter how much they learn? Blizzard created such a situation which shouldn't exist in video games and also not in the real world.
LFR is meant to be as pug friendly and minimal organization as possible. The only time assigned raid leaders is a problem is when they dont utilize things like player markers, beacon markers, ready checks, etc. properly and even then, those are not absolutely necessary if everyone knows what they're doing.
Any semblance of organization and order, well, you currently have normal modes for that and Flex for next patch as the starting line.
I don't think so. People who want organised raids and a raid leader can do so in guilds. And you can flag yourself already as dungeon guide.
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Last edited by adorich; 2013-06-13 at 11:49 AM.
Assuming shit out of thin air and basing a concept on that?
rareley seen worse. really.
OP: Before making a suggestion thread, you should consider the negative aspects of the suggestion you are providing. If those negative aspects are not balanced by the positive aspects (and, in this case, they aren't), you should not make the thread.
Giving anyone any additional leadership power in an LFR is a terrible idea. There are already enough groups that abuse the votekick system... and you want to give all that power to one person? No, uh uh, that's never going to happen in LFR. Furthermore, allowing them to distribute loot? What!?
Sorry, dude, but LFR is pretty much perfect for what it is. Loot is 100% fair, bad players are subject to votekicks, and those that know what they're doing can volunteer to lead the raid. There's absolutely no need to change it.
Seriously, actually think about what could go wrong with your idea before you make another thread... you'd be doing all of us a huge favor that way.
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