Thats just sad.
Thats just sad.
I think it's a fitting end for Nazgrim. Just because he's likable, that doesn't mean he's perfect. His death will be true to his character.
Nazgrim's greatest strength is that he is loyal. Nazgrim's greatest weakness is that he is loyal.
Last edited by Zulkhan; 2013-06-13 at 05:42 PM.
It's the simple fact that he's loyal to the Warchief. Just like people who served monarchs in the old days, just because a new King was on the throne didn't mean they could just stop following them or fighting for them.
Nazgrim was a pretty cool character, but I agree with this move. He was never a particularly important character, he was just an unlucky quest giver, he wasn't really a leader.
I do think it's a shame, yes, and I do think that, because Garrosh has gone too far with what he's been trying to do since he came to power, he should realise that his leader isn't a leader he should follow anymore, but that's just not how these kinds of things go. He is obligated to serve him, and that's that, whether he agrees with him or not. And it's not cowardice: it's doing his job.
With characters like Thrall, you know where you stand, he's a moral hero and does whats right, where as someone like Sylvanas you never know where you stand with her, and always stepping over glass.
But Garrosh, his progression has been seen before in so many other characters, its beyond belief people didn't see this coming, since ones like Illidan, Kael'thas and Arthas went down the same road.
As for only being drawn to bad guys, thats fine and dandy, but when the story begins to conflict and blur moral lines between such characters, and more so, when people seem to lose any sense of awareness of the characters faults and what they are doing, and just pass it off as okay (because they like the character), then the line is crossed by the player as much as the character.
Since this is a subject on Nazgrim, he is a character who, frankly, is just a disappointment. He could have shown a kind of conflicting intrest, given his position as Garrosh's first hand man, but one who saw what Garrosh was doing to the horde. He could have been someone who questioned his own loyalty, such as the difference between his king or his country. He choose to side with his king, and abandon his country. That unfortunately crossed the line.
And f**k me.. so many orcs becoming the bad guys in wow right now, its hard to play them anymore without feeling like there the bad guys. I'm been more into playing skyrim just to play an orc that feels like a hero instead of a foil.
My guess is at the start he will say something along the lines of "I'm sorry, I wish it hadn't come to this. After all we've been through... But I am honor bound to my Warchief, please, do not dishonor me with restraint. I wish you the best of luck heroes, now, lets do this!"
This occurs very oddly to me that every time I need to fight some hero, he or she is always corrupted.
If they truly want to kill him off, the only way for make it worth it's doing so that Nazgrim don't feel like "another bad orc slain", but as something tragic, especially if he is showed mostly as flawed, having strong doubts about his Warchief but with no strength for make the right decision, unable to spit to what is now a hollow blood oath. The fight could even work with Nazgrim, at 1%, asking to be finished for grant him a honorable death, but then occuring some script-event where some lore character says to him that don't deserve to die in such a way for who, despite how much he tries stubbornly to deny it, is not anymore his "Warchief".Since this is a subject on Nazgrim, he is a character who, frankly, is just a disappointment. He could have shown a kind of conflicting intrest, given his position as Garrosh's first hand man, but one who saw what Garrosh was doing to the horde. He could have been someone who questioned his own loyalty, such as the difference between his king or his country. He choose to side with his king, and abandon his country. That unfortunately crossed the line.
But maybe i'm deluding myself, at this point i don't know what to think anymore.
Last edited by Zulkhan; 2013-06-13 at 07:48 PM.
A shame about Nazgrim; an Orc who was far more interesting than the ever boring Thrall, yet the one we may well be killing. Truth be told he was the only compelling Orcish character i've encountered for a while; save for Garrosh himself who achieved his intended effect as a character, however bad he himself is as a character.
“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956