Nazgrim

[Trassk]

I just have to say it...

WHY??

General Nazgrim - Once a grunt in service of the former warchief, Thrall, General Nazgrim rose quickly through the ranks after overwhelming victories in Grizzly Hills and the sunken city of Vashj'ir. Fiercly loyal to the Horde and bound by a rigorous code of honor and duty, Nazgrim will hold the line for his warchief until his dying breath.

I just... WHY??

After everything we've been though with this character, there throwing him away as a boss. We've faught with him though wrath, cata and mists, and yet when it finally comes down to it, he's just another grunt in garrosh's army, ready to throw himself away for his corrupt leader?

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[SL1200]

I was also sad to see that Nazgrim sides with Garrosh. Thankfully this entire seige of org business is almost over.

[Trassk]

Do you think theres any hope that after we fight him, he'll come around and realize his warchiefs a monster?

[Resentful]

Bound to the warchief so... nothing else can be done lol

[Rocket Surgeon]

I just have to say it...

WHY??



I just... WHY??

After everything we've been though with this character, there throwing him away as a boss. We've faught with him though wrath, cata and mists, and yet when it finally comes down to it, he's just another grunt in garrosh's army, ready to throw himself away for his corrupt leader?

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He's a soldier. That's his job.

[LilSaihah]

Maybe you have to wear down his spirit. By clobbering him.

Yeah I'm pretty bummed by this too. It might be cool if you could have a dialogue at the end of the fight, and if you've done all his quests and pick the right dialogue options, he surrenders and lives, otherwise you have to execute him. Possibly the same with Zaela. Steal the best part of DX:HR; the dialogue fights!

Optionally, make these options a Normal or Heroic-mode bonus thing, like Algalon.

[Deleted]

Do you think theres any hope that after we fight him, he'll come around and realize his warchiefs a monster?

SEe my reply in the other thread, I also said something along the lines of a resolve that might come up with Nazgrim, because I don't think they just kill him off.

[Arrashi]

I actually really love nazgrim and i hope he will die. He is the only person that isnt either mary sueish protagonist or insane mindless idiot. Giving him cliche redemption will remove any illusion of deepth garrosh storyline have. So i salute to poor nazgrim. Its a shame it has to end like that.

[Ghaleon]

I am also slightly saddened by this i liked Nazgrim., hopefully the fight is just us knocking some sense into him then he joins us.

[Vongimi]

Im thinking it supposed to illicit a emotional response as to the cost of Civil War with your own faction.

[Tydrane]

I'm hoping Kiryn, Riko, Rivett and Shokia don't join him. I really like those guys.

After some poking around on Wowpedia and Wowhead, it looks like the only one not present in Durotar is Kiryn, which kind of makes sense - she's more likely loyal to the Banshee Queen than Garrosh, if it came to it.

Edit: I'll have to check later, but it looks like I was mistaken about Rivett and Shokia, their locations in Durotar are actually linked to their presence on board Hellscream's Fist, and the pin showing their location on Wowhead disagrees with where that actually is in-game. Not sure what to think.

[Valnoressa]

I'd like to think that Nazgrim had his moments of doubt about Garrosh a while ago, but instead decided to shelf those doubts like a good soldier and serve his Warchief. It's possible that he believes that he's beyond redemption now, so he'll die defending the choice he made honorably, rather than waiting until the enemy is at the gates to suddenly switch his opinion.

[Zaelsino]

I'm glad they're letting him go down with dignity at least.

[Kalcheus]

I look forward to the touching moment when Varian lets Nazgrim's father collect his corpse.

[Herecius]

He will fight and die with honor. Not all the men we kill need to be our enemies.

It's not even certain we'll end up really killing him or wether Thrall will spare his life or ... something.

Indeed. I expect he will be fighting even if he does not necessarily believe in the Warchief's motivations, but rather because he is sworn to defend and fight for the Warchief with all of his conviction, no matter what. He'll be an honorable opponent. Looking forward to knowing a lot more about his fight.

[LilSaihah]

Im thinking it supposed to illicit a emotional response as to the cost of Civil War with your own faction.

That would be a pretty drastic tonal shift. I don't know if it could work; I think it'd just piss people off rather than create a meaningful emotional resonance.

[Alienshroom]

Yea I hope something changes and he dont die, he was a badass character that was actually built up in game. Even people not into the lore know who he is from leveling.

[Combatbutler]

I guess he will die, simply for the fact to make a point. Players grew attached to him and Blizz is exploiting that emotion now, in order to get the feeling of civil war across.

[Foto]

Personally I think Nazgrim will redeem himself in "his last dying breath" he will realise that his horde the "true horde" isn't actually the true horde. Fingers crossed he is redeemed!

[Doombringer]

Nazgrim always seemed to straddle the line between 'following orders' and 'fully devoted' when it came to his loyalties to Garrosh.

I guess we have our answer now. He's doubling down on Garrosh.

We might incapacitate him, and he'll come to his senses later... but he may also go out in a blaze of glory. :/