Was pointing out that thier has not been a significant Orc character that has commited evil acts outside of the influence of Demon's Blood (still haven't worked out whether Hagara was an Orc or not - she was Green). Point was that Garrosh has NO demon blood in him - at all. Despite Grom's sacrifice liberating the Orc's from the demonic fury (or whatever you call it). That's what I was trying to point out the Orc specificity.
and I am trying to think of a single being native to Azeroth that hasn't been influence by either the Old Gods or Sagerous to commit "atrocities" besides Garrosh? Lei Shen maybe (though that story is a bit busted).
hmmmmmmm... intresting how similiar Garrosh is to Lei Shen. Lei Shen empowered using a Titan Watcher who is supposed to control the Mogu. Garrosh empowerd by an Old God who - well we know what the Old Gods do -
I could be wrong but I doubt it
He was my favourite character in Cataclysm and I really liked him in wrath. The story of this expansion has sucked is every aspect, bar the Thunder King.
As Trassk said, old age and the influence of Thrall changed him a little and learned some things, still, when the situation became desperate, he just threw away everything and fell again to the same vice, shit-covering again he and his clan in the name of power.
No, Grom was no a better person of Garrosh, and mostly importantly they had different lives and responsibilities. We will never know which amazing different and "better" choices Grommash would have taken if he had the position of Warchief, compared to Garrosh; maybe he wouldn't have become corrupted by his own pride, since he didn't live with the "burden" of his (supposed) father's will on the back.
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It's an enjoyable expansion - very impressed with the amount of new Lore being developed!
Agreed I liked Garrosh as well - Stonetelon was awsome so was his Leader's short story - and Baines. Thought he had turned around after that. Guess not.
I could be wrong but I doubt it
I don't find it sad. In fact I find it quite brilliant. I mean, Wrathion has been suggesting all expansion that the legion will be coming for us soon enough, heavily suggesting that the next expansion will be Legion themed. So what's that got to do with Garrosh? Well when you think about it, it was largely down to Grom's actions and sacrifice that we managed to fend off the Legion in WC3 and now because of his son's rash actions and warmongering, our planet and everyone on it is just open to any attacks from outside due to our in-fighting. I imagine this is the direction Blizzard will take anyway.
Yeah, I'm sad he became a wreckless monster... He was my favorite warchief. I supported his decision to drop the mana bomb on the Alliance, it's too bad he decided to kick out the rest of the Horde, we could have bombed the Alliance into oblivion. Hopefully the next Warchief isn't some peace pushing hippy.
I'm only sad that we don't wipe half of orc population together with him.
I still don't understand why blizzard write books. Theres about 5000 useless quest that can easily be replace with important story plots. What essence left is there in this game? What the fuck does old God even mean anymore?
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" -Socrates
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The rebels stands infront of Garrosh, all of his soldiers either taken hostage or killed. Vol'jinn grins, looking at Garrosh, the time is ticking, at any moment now, the Warchief of the Horde will fall. Thrall lets out a disappointing grunt as he looks away. Vol'jinn lifts his blade, ready to take Garrosh on. Suddenly, a crash can be heard, and another, and another, whole Ogrimmar is shaking. In a flash, the roof of the Warchief's room falls in, and everything sets on fire, infront of them a big fel burning infernal stands, as the screams outside can be heard.
''I prepared the Horde for this!'' Garrosh yells.
De' Amani never give up! We never forget. We never die. 'Dis is our land: you wanna stay, you stay here forever! We gonna bury you here.
Him and Nazgrim are looking like they are going to die, its a shame that it wont even be the playerbases fault. Nope, Blizzards recent shitty story telling will be his downfall.
the same emporwerment didnt kill the goblin in dark heart of pandaria. that and the achievement says "defeat", idont think hes dying, i think hes going to be shamed and broken.
No, no I am not sad.
He is not not somebody I like at all, except for that one event in Cataclysm at Stonetalon, but that's it.
He didn't really do much evil. He tried to kill a few enemies here and there... told the other Horde leaders to pipe down.
Don't know why he needs to go.
"Blood in the gutter is how they butter their bread at the top."