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    As an aside:

    The new Tier 3 talents are basically going to guarantee more sucking to come without major fixes. Eternal Flame is now pretty much a "trap" that is worse than not taking a talent at all from a PvP point of view. Sacred Shield is a 2 minute cooldown which might be the default choice, from a Holy point of view I don't see what's good about Selfless Healer, like what's the point of being forced to waste globals judging?

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    Honestly, PvP across the board needs to see this chain-CCing cut out. No idea who thought that making any combination of CC not sharing DR was a good idea but hot damn. Fear, Horrify, Intim Shout, Fear at full again. Make strings like that share DR and not reset them every other cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joathen View Post
    Honestly, PvP across the board needs to see this chain-CCing cut out. No idea who thought that making any combination of CC not sharing DR was a good idea but hot damn. Fear, Horrify, Intim Shout, Fear at full again. Make strings like that share DR and not reset them every other cast.
    Just from a 2's point of view, Dominate Mind needs either a 30 second CD or needs to share DR with Fears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiNiFiX View Post
    Players can/will always beat the odds. Doesn't mean anything.
    Tbh with those setups, I'd like to see a healer last longer/outheal for longer than 6 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voidspark View Post
    Just from a 2's point of view, Dominate Mind needs either a 30 second CD or needs to share DR with Fears.
    And make Cyclone breakable with Bubble, sweet fricking Jeezy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voidspark View Post
    As an aside:

    The new Tier 3 talents are basically going to guarantee more sucking to come without major fixes. Eternal Flame is now pretty much a "trap" that is worse than not taking a talent at all from a PvP point of view. Sacred Shield is a 2 minute cooldown which might be the default choice, from a Holy point of view I don't see what's good about Selfless Healer, like what's the point of being forced to waste globals judging?
    Hmm, looking at the t3 talents, eternal flame will definitely be useless unless they make the hot undispellable. Selfless healer was actually pretty good till they nerfed the healing it gives and gave more to ret (still confused at that). It was good because any spare time you had could go to judging (like pets or whatever) and you could throw flashes faster, cheaper and stronger, for holy even 1 stack is a nice boost. Still isnt a terrible choice, now that it works with divine light too we can throw some pretty damn big heals with it.

    Sacred shield will definitely be the default choice though and its actually something we have been needing. A automatic life-saver for teammates even if we are cc'd (assuming its undispellable, if it is then jesus it would suck). Besides this we STILL have no hots or shields for teammates while we get cc'd though.

    The divine plea change is nice too, can basically roll it earlier without concern for the healing loss, should be better for mana all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisnamesucks View Post
    Hmm, looking at the t3 talents, eternal flame will definitely be useless unless they make the hot undispellable. Selfless healer was actually pretty good till they nerfed the healing it gives and gave more to ret (still confused at that). It was good because any spare time you had could go to judging (like pets or whatever) and you could throw flashes faster, cheaper and stronger, for holy even 1 stack is a nice boost. Still isnt a terrible choice, now that it works with divine light too we can throw some pretty damn big heals with it.

    Sacred shield will definitely be the default choice though and its actually something we have been needing. A automatic life-saver for teammates even if we are cc'd (assuming its undispellable, if it is then jesus it would suck). Besides this we STILL have no hots or shields for teammates while we get cc'd though.
    Eternal Flame is now worse than taking no talent at all.

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