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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    In other news, the 25vs10 debate still rages on, as retarded as ever.

    Tune back at 11 for more broken logic.
    It's not exactly broken logic in this case.

    The hardest boss before Lei Shen is able to be zerged on the 10 man difficulty, and 25 man still has to do it the intended way. Where's the "broken logic" ?

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    In other news, the 25vs10 debate still rages on, as retarded as ever.

    Tune back at 11 for more broken logic.
    no debate to be had.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Daltin View Post
    It's not exactly broken logic in this case.

    The hardest boss before Lei Shen is able to be zerged on the 10 man difficulty, and 25 man still has to do it the intended way. Where's the "broken logic" ?
    That's assuming 10m's version of "hard" is the same version of a 25m's "hard". Should drop the topic honestly It just goes in circles. And gl to whoever is going to try and 1 tank 1 heal, might be able to actually w/ a disc priest and prot paladin.

  4. #84
    Nothing new, it happens when people outgear the content
    Remember Sartharion and Freya zerg?

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daltin View Post
    It's not exactly broken logic in this case.

    The hardest boss before Lei Shen is able to be zerged on the 10 man difficulty, and 25 man still has to do it the intended way. Where's the "broken logic" ?
    Never in WoW history has outgearing enabled to cheese tactics.


  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Dangg View Post
    Nothing new, it happens when people outgear the content
    Remember Sartharion and Freya zerg?
    Those came well after the zone was "finished". This video was a first kill, ie not over geared, for some folks.

  7. #87
    We thought of trying something similar to this when we were progressing on animus, decided against it though. Kinda hate it, worst boss of the tier imo.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by brunnor View Post
    Those came well after the zone was "finished". This video was a first kill, ie not over geared, for some folks.
    Ilvl upgrades = overgeared.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by brunnor View Post
    Those came well after the zone was "finished". This video was a first kill, ie not over geared, for some folks.
    the meta achivement and drake was removed when ulduar was release for our 2nd kill on sartharion we did zerg him so a few more could get the plagued proto - so the content was still current. however we did you 25man gear for it that had an higher ilvl but hey pritty mutch everyone that did os10+3 before ulduar used 25man gear

    and will the firest DA heroc kill dit it without 5.3 buffs, legendary metas/cloaks and gear upgrades

  10. #90
    the freya zerg was before the zone was finished, they buffed her healing with stacks to compensate

  11. #91
    Would be fun to do just for padding and ranking's sake.

    We oneshot it every week doing it the "right" way though, so kind of pointless. ToT starts to turn into a massive joke once you're sitting on ~540 ilvls.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Liax View Post
    My guilds making me reroll BwM monk cause of this sadly. You couldn't do this with a blood dk, or a prot warrior period. Unless you stacked haste/crit on the blood dk.
    Your guild is making you reroll to exploit a boss's mechanics?

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziharkk View Post
    Would be fun to do just for padding and ranking's sake.

    We oneshot it every week doing it the "right" way though, so kind of pointless. ToT starts to turn into a massive joke once you're sitting on ~540 ilvls.
    I like these kind of responses.

  14. #94
    is that doable in 25 mans?

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Daltin View Post
    It's not exactly broken logic in this case.

    The hardest boss before Lei Shen is able to be zerged on the 10 man difficulty, and 25 man still has to do it the intended way. Where's the "broken logic" ?
    Again, 25 mans don't do the fight the intended way either. They entirely skip larges to avoid crimson wake, as the time lost towards enrage didn't outweigh the increased movement in their minds. So, nerf large skipping please.

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    Between ilvl upgrades, legendary metas, 600 cloaks, thunderforges, vengeance abuse and demo locks, I'm not that surprised that this strat came about.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Genju View Post
    Why not let 2 adds + Boss on the Tank for more dmg? or is it too much dmg to sustain without cooldowns?
    We tried that for even more sustained vengeance. The damage was honestly to spiky and resulted in even more tank deaths xD. Since your blowing pretty much every CD @ the pull (Guardian of Ancient Kings/Pain Sup etc etc) due to the insane damage, those cds will never be up again since the enrage is at 2.5 mins. Def. do not recommend having 2 adds + Boss up for the duration of the fight since you simply won't have any CDs left apart from 1 mins.
    Last edited by Sting123; 2013-06-17 at 10:47 AM.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by gahddo View Post
    Again, 25 mans don't do the fight the intended way either. They entirely skip larges to avoid crimson wake, as the time lost towards enrage didn't outweigh the increased movement in their minds. So, nerf large skipping please.
    Except there was a dev interview about raids where they specifically mentioned large golem skipping. As in, a failure in their part to properly balance Crimson Wake and making it far too annoying to deal with. But hey, since you're such a pro, go do it in "intended" way. Kite that freaking thing while trying to avoid 20 other golems. It will be fun.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Your guild is making you reroll to exploit a boss's mechanics?
    Exploit, lol please. How is this a bug? Some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    Except there was a dev interview about raids where they specifically mentioned large golem skipping. As in, a failure in their part to properly balance Crimson Wake and making it far too annoying to deal with. But hey, since you're such a pro, go do it in "intended" way. Kite that freaking thing while trying to avoid 20 other golems. It will be fun.
    I'm sure other bosses have annoying mechanics as well, but they're not skipped. The fact is, even 25m avoids an entire mechanic in the fight so the argument pertaining to the logic applies and don't also think this strat is as viable as the normal strat for progression because it relies heavily on group composition(tank/healers).
    Last edited by Anonymitylol; 2013-06-18 at 01:37 AM.

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