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  1. #101
    Garrosh is corrupted but i will concede that he brought it upon himself

    He chose to allow himself to be corrupted but that corruption has gotten the better of him like ishi his blademaster

    I will bet when the corruption leaves his dying body he will say im so sorry i thought i could handle it but couldnt

    Cheesy and cliche but hey thats blizzards writing for you

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by koawinter View Post
    Thunder King. Ra-Den. Sha of Fear. Ragnaros. Cho'Gall. Nefarion. Yogg. Lich King. Illidan.

    Need I name more?
    I believe he meant an expansion end boss. Illidan, Lich King and Deathwing were corrupt.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Azlarn View Post
    I believe he meant an expansion end boss. Illidan, Lich King and Deathwing were corrupt.
    Illidan was no end of expansion boss(and completely bonkers by that point), that was Kil'Jaeden. Kel'Thuzad acted on his own volition as well.

  4. #104
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    The way i see it is that he was never driven by maddening calls of the old gods to commit such horrible actions, he was never corrupted by them BUT he was corrupted by power.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    Garrosh is corrupted but i will concede that he brought it upon himself

    He chose to allow himself to be corrupted but that corruption has gotten the better of him like ishi his blademaster
    What if Garrosh has slowly been corrupted ever since he set foot on Pandaria? That would mean that even during that Divine Bell scene he wasn't completely himself anymore. It would also mean that he didn't allow himself to be corrupted willingly.

    Do take note that Garrosh' actions gotten worse since he set foot on Pandaria. I don't think that's a coincidence.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    What if Garrosh has slowly been corrupted ever since he set foot on Pandaria? That would mean that even during that Divine Bell scene he wasn't completely himself anymore. It would also mean that he didn't allow himself to be corrupted willingly.

    Do take note that Garrosh' actions gotten worse since he set foot on Pandaria. I don't think that's a coincidence.
    His worst action was before he even know that Pandaria existed, the Bombing of Theramore. The decision of Vol'jin assassination also happened before the Landing.

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    Agreed..

    However I am still interested in the Mannoroth remains causing corruption theory.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    What if Garrosh has slowly been corrupted ever since he set foot on Pandaria? That would mean that even during that Divine Bell scene he wasn't completely himself anymore. It would also mean that he didn't allow himself to be corrupted willingly.

    Do take note that Garrosh' actions gotten worse since he set foot on Pandaria. I don't think that's a coincidence.
    He was a raging warmonger even beforehand. In Wolfheart for example, Garrosh stole tons of weapons and monsters from Northrend like the Magnataur to use as weapons. He saw the same thing in Pandaria; nothing but another source for power. The moment he landed on Pandaria and saw the Sha, he became obsessed with controlling its power to use it as a weapon. His Vol'jin assassination plot was also started before he landed on Pandaria. He saw Vol'jin as a coward and would get in his way of the power he wanted, so he was sending him to investigate the Saurok cave with no intent of Vol'jin returning.

    Garrosh is corrupt but not in the "possession/manipulation" sense. Garrosh is obsessed with power, having a might makes right mentality, and even willingly gives himself to Y'shaarj if it means having the power to conquer Azeroth.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by ViridianCC View Post
    Sha of Fear, Yogg ARE corruption themselves, considering they are the manifestation of and an Old God.

    Ragnaros is a servant of the Old Gods.

    Nefarian is a servant of the Old Gods.

    Cho'gall is a servant of the Old Gods.

    Illidan has accepted demonic corruption into his body to make himself more powerful at least twice.

    The Lich King is the spirit of a corrupted Orc warchief fused with the body of a corrupted human prince / paladin who was slowly driven insane through a combination of his own hubris and the whispering promise of a dark power that will save his people.

    The Thunder King is the only answer here that fit in the not-corrupted spectrum, though even he has fallen from the favor of the Titans.
    Being a force of corruption doesn't mean that they are corrupted, wtf?

    Serving a master does not mean that you are corrupted. How is Ragnaros corrupted? Was there a good Raggi at any time in the history of WoW? Breaking news: Elemental Lords treat "us" as we treat insects. You don't care about the fly you kill because it annoys you. Oh, you stepped on an ant? Who cares? We are nothing in their mind. The world belongs to them and their kind. They never changed their moral. They never changed their view on the world. How are they corrupted? How is Illidan corrupted? The Lich King IS a force of corruption, but he is NOT corrupted! Being forced to "serve" the Legion DOES not corrupt you! When I point a gun and you and make you do stuff that does not corrupt you by any means...
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  10. #110
    Garrosh is corrupted, ok.
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  11. #111
    cor·rupt
    [kuh-ruhpt] Show IPA
    adjective
    1.
    guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.
    2.
    debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.
    3.
    made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.
    4.
    infected; tainted.
    5.
    decayed; putrid.


    Garrosh falls under SEVERAL of these categories, ESPECIALLY after he willingly invites himself to be infected and affected by Y'Shaarj in the Garrosh Encounter in 5.4. Stop being idiots. He's CORRUPT.

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Servasus View Post
    cor·rupt
    [kuh-ruhpt] Show IPA
    adjective
    1.
    guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.
    2.
    debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.
    3.
    made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.
    4.
    infected; tainted.
    5.
    decayed; putrid.


    Garrosh falls under SEVERAL of these categories, ESPECIALLY after he willingly invites himself to be infected and affected by Y'Shaarj in the Garrosh Encounter in 5.4. Stop being idiots. He's CORRUPT.
    You win sir , at missing the point. The kinda stupid uproar in these forums about having another 'corrupted' end - boss is not because he fits the dictionary definition of the word , its because some people wrongly think that Garrosh like some other bosses before him was a good guy before , but now because of some external power , he has become a dick. If you were actually following the quest lines in this expansion , you can clearly see Garrosh is not controlled by anyone or anything , he acts on his own accord. All the bad stuff he did in this expansion are not caused because his mind is affected by an external malevolent power , but only because Garrosh is a freaking douche - bag , and that's all.
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  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Servasus View Post
    cor·rupt
    [kuh-ruhpt] Show IPA
    adjective
    1.
    guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.
    2.
    debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.
    3.
    made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.
    4.
    infected; tainted.
    5.
    decayed; putrid.


    Garrosh falls under SEVERAL of these categories, ESPECIALLY after he willingly invites himself to be infected and affected by Y'Shaarj in the Garrosh Encounter in 5.4. Stop being idiots. He's CORRUPT.
    People have stated that Garrosh is corrupt, but it's not in the general sense WoW has used the term in "good guy made bad by demons/Old Gods." He's just a dick that willingly uses a superweapon.

    What's being argued isn't that Garrosh isn't corrupt in the literal sense but that he isn't being corrupted by the Old Gods or other outside sources like other bads before him.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by koawinter View Post
    Cho'gall chose, Lich King chose, and Illidan chose. All of these characters chose the path they went down, they wanted that power, they accepted all the possibilities and all the consequences knowingly. That is not corruption, that is the power of choice. They are evil because they chose to be, not because some power worked on them to turn them from the light.
    Not choice, stuble influence. Cho'gall was corrupted by the burning legion as were orcs, Arthas wanted to protect his people, thats why he chosed to pick up the sword (not completely choice as there were an old god sleeping in the northrend), he then killed the same people he wanted to protect (this was not choice, he was corrupted when he picked up the sword). Illidan was influenced by the legion and then gul'dan skull (it spoke to ner'zul)

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Garrosh is "corrupt" in that he's a corrupt dictator, and his body is being corrupted by dark forces.

    However, he is not being manipulated by those dark forces. I think that's the word people have been looking for.

    Everything Blizzard has said about Garrosh indicates that he's in full control of everything he's doing. He's not being used, he's doing the using. Even becoming a vessel of the Sha of Pride and Y'shaarj, that darkness is coming from within himself, not from some outside force trying to bend him to its will. He's bending that power to his own will.

    And the main reason Blizzard is having his story arc progress in such a way, with Garrosh acting so deliberately, is a response to criticism that we've had too many final bosses who were being manipulated and transformed into villains, rather than acting out of their own motivations.
    ^- this garrosh is PHYSICALLY CORRUPTED but not in HIS MIND HE IS CONTROLLING SO HIS MIND CAN'T BE CORRUPTED :I

  16. #116
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    Regan from the Exorcist wasn't 'corrupted' or 'Possessed', doooooh, she was just grumpy.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Regan from the Exorcist wasn't 'corrupted' or 'Possessed', doooooh, she was just grumpy.
    Scumbag puberty...
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    I'm determined to someday make Med'an awesome. (MickyNeilson)

    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

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    One thing is to be corrupted, another one is to be CONTROLLED. He is indeed corrupted by Y'shaarj and shit, but he has control over it and is perfectly "sane". He's a bloodthirsty sob, but he's not possessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Scumbag puberty...
    Maybe Garrosh is just having his first period. Thats why he's broken out in old god funk.

  20. #120
    No he is corrupted. By his own pride. Sha take over people already showing there particular trait in abundance.

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