Am I the only one who's ever gotten into groups where 1 person will do absolutely nothing and spam "vote kick me" over and over because they got into a dungeon they didn't want or into LFR at a boss they didn't want? I'm glad it gives you dungeon deserter when you've been vote kicked.
too many LFR heroes in this thread, saying you're bad for clearing trash solo, unless you caused a wipe or really made it a painful run i don't see why they would kick you, you did nothing wrong.
i've done the same on my low lvl alts in dungeons, i've done it at 80, done it at 85, done it at 90, never been kicked or complained at. Mostly people just watched in awe or just thought, one of 2 things : a) hoping i die for being cocky enough to try solo everything B) think fuck it he's going to smash the shit out of this dungeon i'm gonna watch tv/read a book/chill etc and get my free loot/vp.
I really don't understand why people see this behavior as rude. It's a low-level dungeon. A frost mage can pull an entire group of trash (not all, but some) and kill it without taking any damage at all.
Where do you draw the line between the good kind of mob-killing and the bad kind of mob-killing? It seems pretty arbitrary. It seems like it's based on expectations that don't need to be there. It seems like being spiteful about someone doing this or "smiling" after they have 30 minutes wasted (as a result of trying to save time for themselves and you) makes you an asshole.
In any case, this was not meant to be a solicitation of moral critique from the peanut gallery. Getting Deserter from a vote-kick is broken.
So yes the OP was doing a disservice to the group, let people play their role, stick to your role unless they all agree to let you go off on a killing spree, it's the decent thing to do in a group environment.
Not doing it so much anymore, but yeah. I'm not even the type to kick often, and the few times i've wanted to i often couldn't do it before at all. Rather sad to see a "you can't kick this player for the next 6 minutes", when you're at the endboss XD
Everyone has so much to say
They talk talk talk their lives away
Let's just make the 30 minute debuff baseline for anyone who gets kicked. It seems that's what all the mouth-breathing pitchfork wielders around here want. Cause if you get kicked you're automatically just a bad apple. And it was you who was in the wrong. I mean, they weren't there and have no clue what actually happened but that doesn't stop them from being righteous in their cause. I guess. AND the majority wanted you gone, so there's really no reason to not get a hefty penalty. There must be a good reason you got kicked! 30 minute debuffs for everyone!
happens to a lot of people. shits retarded. today on my hunter i was carrying some scrubs from shattered-hand ( all 3 dps were below 40k) while i was doing 120k on my hunter. tank goes afk for 10 mins between pulls without saying shit and while im misdirecting threat to him we end up wiping. so since the scrubs cant do shit to the boss i just go afk while they play with their dicks or w/e their doing. Instead of being grateful they just laugh and decide to afk longer in the dungeon. jesus. I am sure glad bosses dont have enrage timers anymore cause they would sure hit them doing a total of 40k dps.
I have no problem carrying scrubs (while doing 40% of the dps overall) just dont fucking afk between every pull like a fucktard.
At least I'm hoping that was the reason why and it wasn't the typical "tank wuz 2 slow, i wnt fast run" kind of moron action.
People are missing the point here: You all complain when you get a bad tank in LFG or LFR because they don't know how to tank. I always see complaints like "90 is not the level to learn your class". So when is? It's not about making the run faster or if you can pull and live without repercussions, it's about fostering group play and working as a team. If you go into a dungeon with guildmates or friends at level, and you all want to see who can pull the most and live, that's fine. If your'e in a group where everyone is doing it, then I guess that's fine too. But if you get a group with let's say a newish tank or healer, then be the mentor and show them how it's done, don't just go off on your own because you can. That tank you totally ignored in the dungeon and kept pulling for because you wanted to be done in 10 minutes might end up being your tank for a daily heroic or your LFR run in the future and then I guarantee you'd be the one posting a thread about "crappy tanks in LFR" because you never helped the guy learn HOW to tank.
And before anyone comes with the "It's not my job to teach them" response, that might be so but if everyone has that attitude, then guess what? Nobody will teach, so nobody will learn.
Last edited by Nobleshield; 2013-06-15 at 05:25 PM.
<Meliora> of Turalyon-US
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As a healer Ill pull all kinds of trash if the tank cant do his job. Tanking isnt hard these days, especially in low level dungeons where tank damage is ridiculous
GG to this guy for doing his part to tell the tank he needs to nut up and pull faster, hopefully that guy will get the message before he gets to heroics and raids. Team play means filling your role, if someone was 'soloing trash' that tank was obviously not doing his job.
Andyes, you did do something wrong when you get a kick.. 4 people think you did something wrong and 4 is more than 1, so your guilt is proven...
When a dps does it because 'the tanks too slow', they generally are NOT taking into account the tank or healer's situation, until the group wipes and they blame the healer for not keeping them up.
Without the other sides of the story, you can't really say what happened... but I've gotten !@#$ed over by enough dps that blamed me for 'not healing them' when they're standing in fire and wiping the raid with their 'go faster!' pulls to know that its usually best to spend the extra 1-2 minutes a 'slow tank' costs you, then the 30 minutes of trying to prove you have the superior epeen by arguing in chat til someone gets kicked.
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Have a little respect for the other players in your group and let the tank do his job. You probably wouldn't have gotten kicked if you just did those 2 things.