I cant believe how long and exhausting and mindnumbing this topic gets , every time it shows up.
Everyone is arguing about how they deserve it and bla bla.
The point is , World of Warcraft CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. It is nothing more than a fking money milkmachine and you are acting like mindless chickens while Blizzard laughs in your face. In this "new" World of Warcraft , every Account that pays , is eligible to get everything in the game. It is to milk money from EVERYONE. The playerbase changed from people , who actively took place in character progression, hitting your personal borders of commitment and skill and social abilities to ACHIEVE something. ( guilds and raid groups aren't needed anymore to see content <--- that is the strongest point ) to people who act like they dont have to learn a game or put commitment into it, they are no gamers , they are people who don't know what to do with their rl spare time.
Get over it and change your game already, if you stay here and rant about the very same topic every day nothing changes and ONLY blizzard profits.
They need to make the final part akin to the warlock green fire finale. I don't know how many tears have been shed about that and blizzard has said no it will not be nerfed any time soon. The final part of this quest line needs to be
2) hard, but doable if you know your abilities much like the green fire quest
I mean people did that quest in pvp blues while people in LFR epics cried about it. It wasn't time consuming. It wasn't something gear stopped you from doing. It was something you had to actually know your class to complete. This is what the last Wrathion quest awarding the legendary needs to be.
Also blizzard confirmed it's a piece of gear. They only dodged the is it a weapon part. Notice dodged not denied. I think they just acted coy for the mystery.
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You pay the same for the same OPPORTUNITY not for the same items. Sorry Charlie. Your money opens the same doors. Your skill and time dictates whether you can walk through said doors.
Like it or not casuals make up a large percentage of the game right now and they pay the same subscription as hardcore raiders, Blizzard understands this and appreciates this which is why there is some gear available to casuals so that they may have a chance to play the game and not wipe over and over. This would discourage them and they would quit paying to play, and Blizzard understands that also. There is a bunch of gear that casuals will never get and is only available to hardcore raiders or PvPers. That is the reward system that Blizzard has set up, 1 little cloak is not going to upset the balance of Azeroth, so let them have it. Chances are the next patch after 5.4 will offer higher ilvl gear to HC players anyways.
Originally Posted by nailbomb
I stopped reading after about page 3 but thought I need to put in my 2 pennies worth. In TBC we had people raging on "welfare epics" and it looks like this expansion it's "welfare legendaries". Why do people care what others do or have? I pay my $15 a month for my own pleasure, I care only what I have or don't have. I could give a rat's ass about what so and so has or does as long as it does not affect my enjoyment of the game.
Btw I've done the attunement, TK/SSC pre nerf, 3 days a week raiding for months on end, etc. It doesn't interest me anymore and I now enjoy the game strickly through LFR and do my own thing. This far into the patch, I'm not even close to obtaining the cloak on my main and 1 alt. I can't believe this generation still cares about what others have or don't have...virtual or otherwise. I thought that mindset went away during the Gen X period.
ATTENTION I smell a special snowflake that has to shine in orange in a bits & bytes game to be special...Blizzard should just make the end solo quest/scenario decently hard. The reverse QQ will be glorious.
Infracted; Don't insult other posters. (Sonnillon)
Last edited by Sonnillon; 2013-06-19 at 07:41 AM.
For me, atleast, it's a futile excercise to see if I can finally show people the "light."
But then I realize I'm talking to bats who can't see it anyways.
But already I'm starting to see more players and even Blizzard look at these changes with a sour face.
It's like a doomsayer sticking around to see if he was right and maybe Blizzard will realize in time to turn it around.
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dont you get tired doin the same raid every week sometimes without even advancing a bit AND
once you got your legendary what are you gonna do with it when you done all the bosses? sit in sw/og and shine hey look im a leet hc player with a binary-legendary and feel like you ARCHIVED something? roflmao
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thats like comparing a bike to a formel 1 car....
thats so roflmao my son - I was a gamer before you ever got your first diaper....
I read "prepare for my feeble counter argument."
And hey look what followed!
-Yes I get tired, that's the point. It's a wall to overcome. It's a puzzle to fix. You're still playing the game. Without a struggle here or there it'd be boring and forgettable like LFR is.
-Legendaries are very handy if you're still progressing in Heroics because not every guild will be 12/12 by the time they get theirs.
This wasn't directed at me but here you go :P
The whole purpose of this legendary quest is to keep people subscribed instead of just subbing for one month when new content is out. Seeing as most of the playbase uses LFR the answer is yes.
Go with my suggestion. Make the final legendary quest "you must defeat Hexos". That way it's fair. Everyone can do that.
Some of my guildies are not even past part 2 of this legendary quest and we do run normal/heroic modes. They are just not that into it/are too lazy to do it or whatever reason they have. Those rewards are not needed for progression.
If someone is dedicated enough to finish the quest line (gather lots of items that just don't want to drop, cap valor for at least six weeks (or three after nerf), do some pvp even if they don't do it usually, farm/buy/trade trillium bars etc.) then I think that they deserve it, even if they did it in LFR. It doesn't bother me if they did it that way. It's not stopping me from enjoying the fact that I have mine.
Last edited by nekobaka; 2013-06-19 at 01:16 AM.
As someone that cleared 13/13H well over a month ago, I have no issues with people in LFR getting the legendary as well. You've still had to grind out horrendous RNG for the entire expansion which is frankly more work than any of the previous legendaries that only lasted a tier.