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  1. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by crakerjack View Post
    the legendary will hands down be heroic only... there's no logical reason to make it anything different. If they make it available in LFR, then that just means that blizzard doesn't care about hardcore raiders. Legendaries are legendary for a reason... if everyone ran around with one, what would make them so legendary?
    They've let you do and get everything in lfr so far they're not going to make it heroic only now lol.

  2. #342
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    If the legendary is a weapon then I guarantee you the 'extra' item levels from heroic gear wont even come close to the 'extra dps' you gain from having a legendary weapon. C'mon, don't be silly. Someone with a full 502 gear but 2 549 weapons is going to do a hell of lot more DPS than someone with full 549 gear but 502 weapons. Weapons provide the biggest upgrade.
    I'm not discussing the impact that getting it will have, I'm just saying it won't matter for heroic raiders if people who run LFR have the exact same legendary as they do. I'm not comparing heroic gear without legendary vs LFR gear with legendary, that'd be silly.

  3. #343
    Why do you care what other people get anyways?

    Thought it was datamined that it's going to be a legendary weapon enchants that has a special proc from the start of MOP. So it's probably going to go on a weapon from the raid difficulty you are running.. I highly doubt a LFR only use will end up with same weapon as an heroic raider at the end of the tier.

  4. #344
    Quote Originally Posted by Spotnick View Post
    Why do you care what other people get anyways?
    I know personally, as a heroic raider, I don't necessary care what people get exactly. I hope people get items for doing stuff.

    But there's a high level issue of rewards not requiring a certain level of effort, and that level is slowly sinking as time passes. People wonder why they get bored of this game, especially at a casual level.

  5. #345
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsimp View Post
    I think it should be LFR only... :smug:

    Can you imagine the tears?
    Annoying for sure but there are already a lot of raiders running LFR. It would really just make raiding require all that more time investment to make it even more casual unfriendly.
    Last edited by nekobaka; 2013-06-19 at 06:34 PM.

  6. #346
    Legendaries nowdays are not even worth being called legendary...
    http://ptr.wowdb.com/items/97457-scissors is not a sword... or at least thats what my mom told me when I was 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honnycorns View Post
    Legendaries nowdays are not even worth being called legendary...
    inorite?

    Remember back in the best expansion there ever was and all you had to do was roll 00 and BAM! legendary!

    Now you have to do all this stuff, for months and months.

    Legendaries are supposed to be BAM! legendary! for lucky people not these grinds anyone who plays day after day can do.

  8. #348
    it would be a joke if people could obtain a legendary item through lfr.

  9. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushima View Post
    Though is it the only legendary you can obtain by logging in, pressing one button to queue from a capital city and then autoattacking each boss. Yes sometimes you may get kicked for just autoattacking but lately I've seen so, so many do just that.

    Any legendary obtainable by afk/autoattacking means is not really a legendary and any fun, as you know that even if you put in the effort to kill bosses on normal or heroic, some LFR player who can just autoattack or do 50k dps, can get better luck than you and complete it first.
    Quote Originally Posted by santa666 View Post
    Farming multiple legendarys with alt raids and lots of logistics vs clicking 1 button and go watch tv ?
    Yes, such a time commitment, by 5.4, watch, it'll be 2k valor and 10 / 6 stones to collect...
    So much hyperbole here it's barely worth responding to.

    Who are these people that afk through an entire LFR ? They don't exist. Every LFR I've done, anyone who afked a boss got votekicked. You're making up villains that don't exist because you oppose a theoretical situation that simply does not happen except in possibly like 1% of the LFR population. Even in LFR there are maybe 3 fights you can get by with literally just autoattacking without either dying or the boss moving and you standing there doing nothing.

    And you folks are acting like no one ever derped their way to a legendary before MoP. I know folks who got Dragonwrath and FotF by basically being carried to them. How is that any different than the situations you're describing ? It's not.

    And even if these non-existent (or at worst, tiny amounts of) people somehow manage to "afk" or "watch tv" to a legendary, how in the hell does that affect you ? Give me an objective way it impedes upon you. Give me one solid reason. Something other than "it invalidates it" because that is highly subjective and doesn't apply to me or to many other posters here, so that sentiment has more to do with you than with objective reality. Give me an objective reason it makes what you do with your guild less valuable. Does it lower your ilvl ? Does it make their ilvl equal yours ? Are their LFR kills on the front page of MMO-C or WoWProgress, ahead of your normal/heroic kills ? Give me one reason.
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  10. #350
    Simply tired of people who think they are something special just because they do normal or heroic raiding. They get items with levels we LFR people just can dream of, raid achievements and special mounts - enough reward for them. Not?
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  11. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by grdn View Post
    Simply tired of people who think they are something special just because they do normal or heroic raiding. They get items with levels we LFR people just can dream of, raid achievements and special mounts - enough reward for them. Not?
    They also get recipe drops.

    They also get crafting mats we can only buy at the AH.

    They also get the content sooner.



    So, to recap:

    We get to:

    1) See a watered down version of the encounters
    2) See The Lore
    3) Lower iLvl items
    4) Wait weeks before we can get all of the content accessible to us

    They get:

    1) The full versions of the encounters
    2) Achievements
    3) Mounts
    4) Higher ilvl items
    5) All of the content accessible at least within 2 weeks
    6) Crafting Mats
    7) Recipes
    8) Special versions of gear with even more power
    9) More gold
    10) Titles
    11) Achievements
    12) Possibly even feats of strength
    13) Sometimes extra bosses


    But no! We get waaaay too much! Because 1% of the group can play poorly! SO HORRIBLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    So much hyperbole here it's barely worth responding to.

    Who are these people that afk through an entire LFR ? They don't exist. Every LFR I've done, anyone who afked a boss got votekicked.
    There's also the matter of the around two thousand mobs you have to kill to earn exalted with The Black Prince. How do you kill two thousand mobs while AFK?

    It's less grinding than you need for a bone white raptor mount (more mobs, less health). Maybe you should have to grind a bone white raptor, and then instead of learning it, give it to Wrathion. Would that be grindy enough? Would it be legendary enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otiswhitaker View Post
    But no! We get waaaay too much! Because 1% of the group can play poorly! SO HORRIBLE!
    Well, it's more like 5%. "There's one in every group" basically.

    But it's true. LFR is almost completely made up of people who are quietly trying, some of them doing very well and some not so well. And then there's that one asshole in every group who makes it seem like a toilet.

  13. #353
    Probably, but it doesn't matter. We've all done so much shit to get this far, and i'm sure we'll have a nice quest like the dagger / dragonwrath ones to obtain it, that shit players can't do.

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  15. #355
    Quote Originally Posted by Otiswhitaker View Post
    They also get recipe drops.

    They also get crafting mats we can only buy at the AH.

    They also get the content sooner.



    So, to recap:

    We get to:

    1) See a watered down version of the encounters
    2) See The Lore
    3) Lower iLvl items
    4) Wait weeks before we can get all of the content accessible to us

    They get:

    1) The full versions of the encounters
    2) Achievements
    3) Mounts
    4) Higher ilvl items
    5) All of the content accessible at least within 2 weeks
    6) Crafting Mats
    7) Recipes
    8) Special versions of gear with even more power
    9) More gold
    10) Titles
    11) Achievements
    12) Possibly even feats of strength
    13) Sometimes extra bosses


    But no! We get waaaay too much! Because 1% of the group can play poorly! SO HORRIBLE!
    LOL you remind me of those infomercials where they do things sloppily on purpose and compare it to the bright and shiny new thing they're trying to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daetur View Post
    Right now, running LFR doesn't even "grant" you the 600 cloak, you have to be good enough to complete the solo boss fight, and THAT'S the hard part, not grinding the components.
    The solo part was hard? I think it took me 5 minutes. You just can't be braindead. Although granted, most of LFR ARE braindead.

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    i do hope so. i think it would look pretty cool running around with a LFR legendary, while standing next to all those raiders with the same item. we have all done the chain quest, we should all get the item. end of.

  18. #358
    I'm definitely not against people getting it from doing just LFR, if anything they deserve it more in some way for doing the absolute utter torture that is LFR for so so many months to get items that far less benefit out of than people who do normal/heroic.

    But from my point of view i would definitely enjoy that the normal, or mainly heroic raiders, that are clearing all of the content get it faster, i don't think thats too hard a leap considering LFR->Heroic is pretty large difficulty gap and also considering that a lot of raiders just quit after you clear the final tier of an expansion on heroic and if you are one of those there is a fair chance you probably wont even finish this legendary quest line, which i feel is the greatest shame of this whole legendary quest line.

  19. #359
    Quote Originally Posted by Otiswhitaker View Post
    They also get recipe drops.

    They also get crafting mats we can only buy at the AH.

    They also get the content sooner.



    So, to recap:

    We get to:

    1) See a watered down version of the encounters
    2) See The Lore
    3) Lower iLvl items
    4) Wait weeks before we can get all of the content accessible to us

    They get:

    1) The full versions of the encounters
    2) Achievements
    3) Mounts
    4) Higher ilvl items
    5) All of the content accessible at least within 2 weeks
    6) Crafting Mats
    7) Recipes
    8) Special versions of gear with even more power
    9) More gold
    10) Titles
    11) Achievements
    12) Possibly even feats of strength
    13) Sometimes extra bosses


    But no! We get waaaay too much! Because 1% of the group can play poorly! SO HORRIBLE!
    Yeah, because you're playing dumbed down versions of a raid. I thought that's obvious you're going to get minimal reward. I still think it's too much - if you just want to see the content, what's the point of the gear on LFR?

    Even though, I still think letting LFR-players do all the quests and at the end just saying "okay, we're done with you, from that point on, only true raiders can continue" would be a major douchebag-move. Let them have it, whatever, they kinda earned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrie View Post
    Even though, I still think letting LFR-players do all the quests and at the end just saying "okay, we're done with you, from that point on, only true raiders can continue" would be a major douchebag-move. Let them have it, whatever, they kinda earned it.
    Seriously, that would be like if someone killed Illidan for the first time and there it was, BAM, Warglaive! and everyone was like yo dude only true raiders who have rolled on this for the past year can have it. Because rolling 20 on a 20-sided die requires true raiding.

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